Comments:22 million counterfeit cigarettes found in Wales

If they got rid of the special taxes on tobacco, then there wouldn't be a market for counterfeits. --SVTCobra 13:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

If they got rid of the special taxes on tobacco, who would be paying for medical procedures for both smokers and second hand smoke victims in countries that have public health care? Its only fair that those who decide to smoke should be the ones paying, in the form of heavier taxes on tobacco. —69.70.245.76 00:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Get rid of taxpayer-funded health care, which has no legitimate reason to exist anyway, and that problem is moot.


 * Taxpayer-funded healthcare has good reasons to exist, although it is run so badly you might be hard-pushed to guess. Think of it as a kind of insurance policy. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

They should take it as a hint that it's time to give up the cigarette proliferation game. Downsize and stop smoking. There's no excuse for more people to get addicted now that it's such common knowledge that ciggies cause damage in the short and long term. 220.235.174.128 02:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Have you seen the little ciggies Crawling in the dirt And for all the little ciggies Life is getting worse Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger ciggies In their starched white shirts You will find the bigger ciggies You will find the bigger ciggies Stirring up the dirt Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their styes with all their backing They don't care what goes on around In their eyes there's something lacking What they need's a damn good whacking.

Everywhere there's lots of ciggies Living ciggy lives You can see them out for dinner With their ciggy wives Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon. 71.120.113.145 19:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

What actually makes the cigarettes counterfeit?

Is it a trademark violation (which should be called counterfeit), or just unpaid special tax? That's tax evasion, but not counterfeiting....

Unrelated, really, but I have to say I love that the caption under the picture of a cigarette says "A cigarette."

Stopping the flow of counterfeit cigarettes
The easiest way to stop the flow of counterfeit cigarettes is to lower the price of the genuine brands by reducing the taxes on them. The lower in price the genuine brands are, the less benefit counterfeiters will gain from their trade. It will effectively render counterfeiting useless to them. Iceflow (talk) 05:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)