Comments:British Airways flight lands short of runway at London Heathrow Airport

I think this accident happened by pilot error

BBC News 24 are now [15:35] reporting that the plane had lost all power, so pilot error seems unlikely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.239.229 (talk) 15:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Evidence of fire? Is there any evidence of fire, I would expect so with the damage to the engines after a belly flop like that and wings torn off. Need to find eye witness accounts from people on board. If there was no fire, or spilt Aviation fuel then it could simply have run completely out of fuel on its final approach. That would be human error --Zven 18:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * For fuel, the aircraft systems would have given warning long enough before fuel ran out. So probably not likely to be out of fuel. From what I have read and seen there is no information about fire, however it is hard to be sure from the outside pictures. Maybe the aircraft hit a flock of birds? However we won't *know* until the crash investigation releases their report. --83.181.55.156 20:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, systems give warning, however errors can occur. There are many real life instances of Fuel starvation. I am not saying that this happened, only interested if it could be a cause. --Zven 00:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Looking at that images coming through, believe me, if there was fire we would know. It would be unmissably damaged by it. I've some degree of knowledge on this section of aviation (I won't pretend to be an expert) and I must say, pending more information I'm with Zven on this one: a possible case of fuel starvation. These often - but not nescescarily - have a pilot error factor to them, but it is mainly due to another problem - often a maintenance issue, sometimes a design flaw. I wonder what the service records say for the pst few months? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 07:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Reverse Thrust
Reading different sources, there are many eyewitness reports that the engine noise actually increased, contrary to reports of loss of power and avionics. Also, with its fly-by-wire technology, without power and avionics: how on earth would the pilot have any control of the aircraft.

Perhaps reverse thrust was activated, which would cause an increase of noise, and a huge loss of speed. —210.48.109.206 23:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)