Comments:Google not accessible in some parts of China

Let's be honest, the UK, Sweden, Denmark, France, and most Middle Eastern countries block far more content, watch their citizens far closer, and ban a lot more things then China has since the 1950's.--151.196.47.167 (talk) 15:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Out of interest, what does the UK government block?


 * The way the West is run, there's no way they can get away with the kind of information control China imposes. If any other country in the world, say, had a reform protest that was violently cracked down upon, and international news agencies were present, you'd think the people of the country it happened in would be allowed to acknowledge it - and grieve openly. The UK is strict when it comes to violent video games, and there were some issues in the (80s?) with reports about Ireland, but it's not like people were forbidden to know about incidents. Furthermore, there's a difference between watching citizens, and taking action against them. --67.174.131.145 (talk) 18:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * "international news agencies", you mean only the 4 or 5 corporate news agencies? 128.211.161.200 (talk) 12:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

That's the usual argument alongside "if you aren't doing anything wrong you don't need to worry about the cameras spying on you in the bathroom". It's pure rhetoric and not worth even bothering to argue with those points because a four year old could shoot holes straight through those argument respectively. The UK today directly censors torrent sites, "violent"(really that can mean just about anything) porn sites, and websites deemed "obscene". The UK indirectly, through google bombing and forcing providers offline, censors sites with coverage favorable to Bobby Sands, truthful accounts(including British Military reports) of the Black and Tans(keeping with the public school indoctrination of the British population), and pages relating to Scottish Independence. The British Government currently gets away with all of this and more. The only mainstream news source considered credible in the UK is owned by the Government.--151.196.47.167 (talk) 18:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't speak to your allegations about the UK, but please leave Denmark out of this grouping. --SVTCobra 18:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Ironically, Chinese-based search engines such as Baidu end up displaying an equal number, if not MORE hits for lewd content than Google. Given that I think it's pretty clear that pornographic content is not the motivation for the condemnation of Google.

Naturally this whole issue has nothing to do with Google's hardline "free flow of information" stance towards censorship in regards to things like Tienanmen Square. Nor does it have much to do with the fact its a wholly-foreign-owned company...

Good the chinese don't need it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.67.58 (talk) 05:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)