Comments:Rage Against The Machine top UK singles chart

Hah, well how about that. I remember the beginnings of the facebook group about this. The power of the people is great. --James Pain (talk) 19:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Ha, I'm really tempted to see what absurd song we can get next year if we really try... Anyone else here a bit of an Animal? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:47, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I wish people could see past Simon Cowell's potentional profits to the incredibly talented singer that is Joe McElderry. His vocals are faultless, and if you don't agree then you have no true understanding of talent. This campaign is just a ridiculous case of bitter and talentless individuals trying to take away someone's dream just because they don't want Simon Cowell making money again. And what is up with the chosen song? It's so ironic. It's all about not doing what people tell you to, well guess what, that's exactly what the mindless public have done - what some idiots on facebook told them to. Great job, great Christmas number one - a violent song about the Ku Klux Klan which has the word 'fuck' said 16 times in a row. Yeah, Christmas spirit is so there. Christmas number ones are MEANT to be cheesy, they're MEANT to be lame. All this campaign has done is proven how bitter and mindless the population of this country are. Well done.


 * People will already be plotting such schemes. Me? I'm just delighted it wasn't something 'manufactured' by Simon Cowell. People in the UK really needed to send him that great big F-U about all his horrible, horrible pseudo-talent competitions. He's the one pocketing millions, not the people he plays with. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, look! Someone so mature they can't cope with the word fuck. Ahem. FUCK . "a violent song about the Ku Klux Klan... Yeah, Christmas spirit is so there." There's a whole load of Christmas in The Climb, isn't there. You make it sound like a pro-Klan song. Maybe you should take a better look at what the band is all about. Your argument would carry a lot more weight if there was an actual Christmas song involved. That can be as cheesy and lame as you like and I, for one, would not be complaining. Bitter we may be; Rage are about directing that somewhere positive. EDIT, since Brian gave me an edit conflict: Cowell is the real life incarnation of a number of figures from the record industry lampooned by their artists. My usual reference would be Chainsaw Charlie but I've referenced the same band as sang about his murders above, so I'll stick with Queen instead. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Great call on the alternatives. Just queued up Death on two legs. There's plenty of indications that the X-Factor is just perpetuating this nonsense. The untalented management gets wealthy, the artists get a huge bill for all the money spent in their name. I'm sure it was X-Factor someone tried to sue when they found that they walked away with a tiny, tiny percentage of the prize; it's a package designed to make Cowell, not the artist, filthy rich and well-known. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not at all doing what someone on fb told them. Jon Morter started the group (I think it grew out of last year's attempt to get Rick Astley to No.1) but the song was decided on democratically. No one forced people into the group, they just provided an alternative to the X-Factor. To quote Tom Morello:


 * the wub "?!"  20:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Rage against the machine on christmas number 1
I think this is really out of order. OK, so blame the x factor, blame Cheryl Cole, even blame Simon Cowel or the public, but what did Joe McElderry ever do to anyone? X factor might deserve it but he certainly doesn't. He only won the show last week and he is meant to celebrate and top a fantastic year off by having his first number 1. People already expected highly from him to carry on the tradition of a christmas number one, but sadly he has dissapointed due to this campaign. He does not deserve such, and after all it is the public that buy the music to make the x factor finalists number one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.137.197 (talk) 22:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe you could say, "The public have spoken". Joe stepped into the lion's den. The democratic alternative to the emperor just gave him the thumbs down. There are thousands of people more talented than Joe who never get the chance. You've probably never heard of Sheena Easton; I suggest you find out how long this sort of "popstar manufacture" has been going on. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:20, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You clearly misinterpret the campaign if you think it's personally against Joe. To me, the campaign was entirely about getting one of my favourite songs to Number 1, but I think for the founders of the campaign the idea was to show fans of the show and other members of the public that there is a very large entity of people that resent the idea of someone being entitled to a democratically elected position. Democracy already played its part for Joe - he was voted winner of the X Factor. Democracy has now played its part for Rage Against the Machine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.35.150 (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Both are good songs, however Rage Against The Machine rightly deserved their place at Number 1 this Sunday, effectively breaking this X Factor fast track to Christmas Number 1. One thing I don't like is strong language, so I would prefer Killing in the Name until about 4 minutes in. Otherwise, both songs are perfectly fine. :) -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 22:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * "he is meant to... top a fantastic year off by having his first number 1... after all it is the public that buy the music to make the x factor finalists number one." He has no right to an automatic chart topper. He has to earn it by convincing the public to buy it; all he has is his talent. (It is, of course, immensely aided, which is why many equal or greater talents will never get the chance.) The public selected Rage, as was their right. After all, it is the public that buy the music to make Rage number one. Personally, I am delighted that it something non-manufactured has made it to the top. That's a rarity; stop and think about that. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:11, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't agree with this fast track to fame; the people who get it are usually some of the least deserving. McElderry has not bothered to learn an instrument, and does not write his own songs, yet his first single is automatically expected to go to number 1. I am ashamed that music in this country has got to the point where a massive Facebook campaign is needed for a band that has actually worked hard and has musical talent (even though I don't like the song, RATM are a very talented group of musicians) to get to number 1 in place of a person who won a TV talent show on his voice alone. Even The Beatles - widely considered to be one of the greatest bands (if not the greatest band) of all time - didn't get a number one until their third single. If they are considered to be less worthy of a number one than Joe McElderry, I fear for the sanity of the nation. Den dodge  T\C 10:19, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes I do they rock and thats all too it... joe is good but he doesnt deserve 1st place again as a band rise against the machine should be awarded this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.236.197 (talk) 00:36, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

RAtM was one of a kind.
I was happy to hear about this.

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