MediaWiki talk:Copyrightwarning

Licenses = public domain?
"or similar free resource" -- Isn't public domain the only public domain-compatible liscence? 137.165.192.17 20:36, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * No, as I understand it there are other copyleft licenses which allow any derivation, without crediting, but I may be mistaken about this. See Copyleft - Amgine 20:45, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I am not a lawyer, although I've tried my best to understand the Copyright Act here in Canada. As far as I can tell, there is no legal equivalent of "public domain" as it is used in the US. While I can certainly give up some rights (with respect to copying for instance), I cannot give up others (moral rights are a good example). My understanding is that only in the US can you put something in the "public domain". My feeling is that asking people to put their contributions into the "public domain" (presumably to allow others to use the content unattributed) could potentially cause problems for users of this information in other countries. I certainly would feel better with something a little more universally adopted. However, I have yet to submit or use anything, so for me it's a moot point...

Exclude Wikipedia
We should IMHO add that incorporating Wikipedia content is not allowed. Because, if people read "free resource" in the last paragraph of the warning, they might think that copying text from Wikipedia - The Free Encyclopedia is OK. --Deprifry | +T+ 19:35, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't see any problem with that. Bawolff 23:52, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Sounds like a good idea to me. Does anyone have a suggested text modification? - Amgine/talk 00:54, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Hows this: Do Not Submit Copyrighted Work Without Permission! Submitting copyright material may result in your editing privileges being removed.

Please note that all contributions to this site are released under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License. By clicking "Save Page", you explicitly release your contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License. You agree to allow your work to be attributed to "Wikinews".

By submitting to Wikinews you are stating you wrote this yourself, or it is from a public domain or similar free resource. That does Not include Wikipedia and most websites. For more information about using wikipedia in articles see Policies and guidelines

If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then please don't submit it here.

Select text and click  to link to Wikipedia (requires JavaScript). I added smallcaps and the border because I thought it'd look cool. Bawolff 23:51, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I like the wording. And it does look cool :). --Deprifry | +T+ 08:37, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks great to me. Needed a touch of padding in Moz, which I've added. If there's no further comment in a couple hours, I will update the site. - Amgine / talk 02:23, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Some changes
Brion made some changes to the edit page code, that reorders things a bit. This message now appears  above the save page/show preview buttons. As is the warning is much to long. I have reduced it down to be much shorter, since it both looks better and I do not believe people who most of the message is aimed at really read it anyways :). --Cspurrier 18:29, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Capitalisation
That capitalisation thing, "Do Not Submit Copyrighted Work Without Permission!", is really really ugly. It should be changed to "Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!". Jon Harald Søby 18:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed; changed. -- IlyaHaykinson 20:56, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

One more thing
editprotected

I suggest that we amend this warning a little bit. Although I'm not sure if CC-BY-SA work can be included in CC-BY documents, I think we should just amend this warning with one more bullet point:


 * You must have written your work yourself or copied it from a compatibly licensed resource or public domain resource.
 * Please note that text from other Wikimedia sites (such as Wikipedia) cannot be posted to Wikinews, as the licensing used by all other Wikimedia sites is incompatible with the more lenient requirements of the Wikinews license.

ViperSnake151 (talk) 16:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest that you bring this up on the watercooler in order to get concensuse for this change. I don't feel comfortable making a significant change like that without consultation. I'll leave the editprotected request in place for now, until such consultation is done. Gopher65talk 06:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ❌, at least for now. This is a rather significant change, and I think it's safest to first obtain consensus before adding the text. I'll post at the water cooler asking for other people's opinion on this. Tempodivalse [talk]  20:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * For the water cooler entry, please see WC:MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Change to reflect consistancy with other Wikimedia sites
So, apparently last year, the general council pushed some "revised" language for these warning messages on the edit page. I think we should do something similar, but adjust it to reflect our differences. I hereby wish it to be changed to this:

By clicking the "Save Page" button, you agree that your contributions will be licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License. You also agree that attribution to "Wikinews" is sufficient attribution under the license.

Do not submit copyrighted work without permission! You must have written your work yourself or copied it from a compatibly licensed resource or public domain resource. Other Wikimedia sites (such as Wikipedia) are not considered to be a compatibly licensed resource, as their license terms contain requirements which conflict with the less restrictive Wikinews license.

ViperSnake151 (talk) 16:49, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I essentially like it, want to change it slightly. First: "...to include it on Wikinews." - just delete that, it's implied. Second: "Due to its use of a different license..." - I'd rather "Due to our use of a less restrictive license...". In part, its -> our as a minor copyedit, and second it explains why the two licenses are incompatible.
 * I'm not into consistency for its own sake, but do think this is an improvement. Not doing it immediately pending some other thoughts on this. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've applied these changes. ViperSnake151 (talk) 05:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Protocol Relative
editprotected

Please make the link protocol relative. Legoktm (talk) 21:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 22:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Revision for consistency with other Wikimedia sites, again
To promote better consistency between other projects, and because my previous revision wasn't acted upon yet, I'd like to propose this instead By clicking the "Save page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the [//creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/ Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license]. You agree that credit to "Wikinews" is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license. Due to incompatibilities between their licensing policies, copying text from other Wikimedia websites, including Wikipedia, is considered to be a copyright violation.

ViperSnake151 (talk) 04:51, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This is probably a fairly major revision, so does anyone have any objections to making this change? Microchip08 (talk) 20:44, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've reopened a discussion at Water_cooler/policy (permalink). Microchip08 (talk) 20:51, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Additional wording
I've added some words,
 * Your contributions to this page will be visible to the public immediately. If you do not want your contributions to be available to the public immediately, then do not click the 'Save' button.

Personally I don't even think they were necessary. However, we were told that if we didn't add some such words the "Save" button would be renamed to "Publish". I did point out that in the Wikinews context that use of the word "Publish" would be a lie, but apparently the WMF bureaucracy doesn't care about not lying to people; they did, however, claim they would forgo lying to users if we added these words here. So far our button still says "Save". --Pi zero (talk) 23:52, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

What we need
We need to replace all occurrences of the link "Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License" with Current CC Version in this page.

Why we need it
As part of the project to upgrade the copyright license used by en.wn, pages will need to be updated to reflect the change. To make the process easier in the future, we are trying to consolidate the places where we mention the specific version used. We are doing this in part by using Current CC Version, as discussed here.

The template is protected. It requires elevated privileges to make that change.

When we need it
Pinging active admins for good measure: If you're feeling extra generous with your time, in addition to this change, we have a list of protected pages that need the Current CC Version template added to them. That list can be found here.

More information
You can see the full discussion here: Water_cooler/policy

Thanks in advance!

Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 13:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC); edited 14:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)