Talk:A 1-year long strike against FMC Novamed: Women workers allege unfair treatment

Email addresses
It is not acceptable to list someone's email address in a report. The revisions containing it likely require oversight. Remove it and any other personally identifying information prior to republication. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. For the record, I'd like to provide them here:
 * If unacceptable even in the talk page, feel free to delete above information. Thanks Towsonu2003 16:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed. Please don't list email addresses like that. If the union wishes to publish these addresses on their site then let them. By providing the information for a selected group of people from one side of the dispute you are encouraging people to target them. If the company has an info@xyz address - and you can find the corresponding for the union then put them in the article. Addresses such as that are handled by people whose full-time job is to read and respond.
 * I appreciate that the company in question here may just ignore any emails to their helpline. So what? If another section of the press picks the story up and the union is answering they'll get the better coverage. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The union in question has no web site, most probably no email addresses. Towsonu2003 17:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Cleanups Needed
Please edit the title. Has wikinews determined the treatment is unfair? This is a common headline tactic for folks with a viewpoint. Please let the reader decide. Women allege unfair treatment would work better.

If they are striking because of the patriarchal conditions of their societies or are forced to work because of that it would help to flesh that out more. I don't know Turkey very well. In many harsher patriarchal societies women can't work outside the home at all. Why does turkey as a society as a whole force these women into the work force?

This feels very viewpoint written. A lot of word choice comes from protest movements. Not a problem, but I think expanding FMC's response would be helpful.

Please expand or cite FMC Novamed's monopoly. Checking their monopoly I find their goal is to achieve a 35% global market share and they are a major player in this space. When people think of monopolies they often think of trains, phone companies, Microsoft which have 90%+ of the market. FMC has some very significant competition. Why has wikinews decided they are a monopoly?

Again this article seems somewhat biased. Can we learn more about who is writing it? Anonymouse5 16:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I will change the name - I just didn't realize it might be biased. An extended discussion on patriachy and free trade zones wouldn't be appropriate in the item I think. People who would like to know more should take a look at the referenced book :) Basically (and I'm oversimplifying), due to historical oppression by men, it is easier to employ women for lower wages because society already doesn't recognize their labor as worthy as men's... All info on Novamed's monopoly is based on references provided (especially from the Radikal newspaper - it's a major newspaper but still, see it's wikipedia entry to get a feel about what kind of a newspaper it is). Wikinews can't decide what is what, but it can report if it is so reported by other news sources. As per who I am: I got to know about this issue two days ago via the Radikal news item and thought this should be spread around. I have no links to the company, to the union (or any other union in Turkey), to the government, or anyone else. I'm basically a passing-by observer. Towsonu2003 17:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Unpublishing due to single english source
It seems someone thought the only english-language source was biased. Although ICEM's resolution against FMC Novamed is a news item by itself, thinking of it as "biased" seems unjust. The link tells you, in English, that an international committee found union demands as logical and just. I included that source because, although this establishes that a news item can have no english-language sources, it usually is preferable to include one or two when available. In this case, it was available. Towsonu2003 15:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * My friend, the international committee is an international UNION committee. If you would like I'm sure people can find international committees of business that think the workers should be grateful to be given water. Does that make it true? This is an english language news site, and it needs some english language support not written by an interest group. Just a thought, but why not put this on indymedia? I read that too, and this would fit much better there, and is a very interesting story. Anonymouse5 16:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I cannot find any other english sources. Towsonu2003 17:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Mark ready before publishing
There is a ready tag you can use before publishing. I came to this page because it was picked up by the print edition of wikinews as published, and I noticed a number of issues. If you mark the article ready before publishing it, people will have a chance to help you edit. Anonymouse5 16:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)