Talk:French Prime Minister announces suspension of all flights to, from Brazil over coronavirus variant concerns

"Latin American nation"
Why use Brazil twice in one sentence? Could be replaced with "in that country". --JJLiu112 (talk) 16:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * There is no harm in using Brazil twice in the same sentence. We tend to omit needless words when they provide little background information. •–•  16:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Understood. Also, my apologies for editing while under review, but I really just had to. --JJLiu112 (talk) 16:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Addition of a new source
did you forget to add this source initially? Xor, is it something new that you are trying to add, drawing up some facts from it? •–• 16:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I did forget, yes. It mentioned the curfew hours and exact restrictive measures, and I always strive to give Wikinews articles just that little bit of extra information you won't find anywhere else. What's the fun of synthesis otherwise? --JJLiu112 (talk) 16:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, . Though if you forget to add a source while the article is under review -- please let the reviewer know via the talkpage or IRC.  No harm was done right now, but it is better not to take the risk.  Cheers. •–•  16:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Understood, thanks. Also, it's JJLiu112. --JJLiu112 (talk) 16:51, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * yeah, sorry, force of habit, I need a way to remember to add the numbers, I have been forgetting them a lot recently. Thanks for reminding though. •–•  16:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

JJLiu was taken, so I decided to add some numbers that rhymed to the end; usually, non-Chinese speakers would pronounce my surname as "Loo". Hence, JJLiu, one one two. --JJLiu112 (talk) 16:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * In the audio interview recordings, I heard you said it is pronounced like "Leo", is that right, . Obtw, if you have finished a part of the transcript, to let me know -- I can start verifying while you work in parallel. •–•  17:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I've done the first bit up to, I'll say 11 minutes but it's on the article itself, and I sent you the YT video in IRC prior so you can verify with that. My name is pronounced /ljuː/, or liú in . --JJLiu112 (talk) 17:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Correction, 15:51. --JJLiu112 (talk) 17:05, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Re: RT
RT changed its name from Russia Today in 2009. I was unaware. Please rectify.
 * For categorisation purpose, we have been using the old name. I will reconsider after the review, if that is okay. •–•  17:12, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Wait, you meant in the article body? Doing! •–•  17:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Also, why did you write "a data"? --JJLiu112 (talk) 17:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "COIVD-19"? --JJLiu112 (talk) 17:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Bad title
Jean Castex is the French Prime Minister, not the "France Prime Minister". Since he is speaking for his country, we should move this to French government suspends all flights to, from Brazil over coronavirus variant concerns. --Green Giant (talk) 00:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. --JJLiu112 (talk) 01:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It does not change the fact the announcement was made by the Prime Minister. It was not announced by the tourism ministry, or the immigration department or the Ministry of External Affairs, it was announced by the PM, and that is an important piece of information. •–•  04:36, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * (ec) And one more thing -- the announcement was made to suspend, but since when it was in effect, that was not reported, so saying suspends is misleading. The grammar for headline is rather loose (but don't take my word for it -- my mind might be under the confirmation bias, since I was subjected to news by most of the Indian media) and omitting "'s" should be okay.  Though I will hope to avoid this situation in future. •–•  04:46, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed about the other ministries but when the Prime Minister announces it, he is doing so on behalf of the French government. -Green Giant (talk) 04:45, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, the details are not misrepresenting the facts, however, providing a detailed info, which is generally not made available in the headlines. Anyone reading the title would know the decision is on the behalf of the country, but anyone wanting to know from where the info originated can also know easily.  Though, none of the sources have said when their decision will be in action -- so best to attribute + suspension over suspends.  (Also see the ec I added above.) •–•  04:51, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * OK perhaps it wasn’t clear enough. "France Prime Minister" is just poor English. It should be "French Prime Minister" or "France's Prime Minister". I’m not sure how else to get this part of the message across. Where the Prime Minister makes such an announcement in the National Assembly, it is not his personal announcement, nor that of his office. It is an announcement by the whole Government of France. As it stands, anyone who reads the article will then see that the announcement was made by the PM. As far as the action is concerned, it is with immediate effect because of the part which says "until further notice". -Green Giant (talk) 06:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

I have already replied about the grammar,. As far as "government's announcement", anyone reading the headline can instantly know it is the govt's decision, because that is what a PM is supposed to do. Yet, it is of interest for the audience, who was the one who brought this forward. Just like, yeah, the US abolished slavery in their country, but it was put in motion by then-president Abraham Lincoln. Thinking about it, Green Giant, it is possible I am overlooking something. Are you suggesting the current headline seems like PM's opinion rather than a formal announcement of his duty? Would you suggest, in this case, "French Prime Minister announces in the National Assembly suspension of all flights to, from Brazil over coronavirus variant concerns" would have been better, if we were to keep "Prime Minister announces" in the headline? •–• 06:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is one of the points I’m trying and failing to make but we don’t need to include "in the National Assembly". Just changing "France" to "French" would be sufficient. -Green Giant (talk) 07:08, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Finally, the fog has lifted from my eyes. Thanks, .  Do you suggest we create French Prime Minister announces suspension of all flights to, from Brazil over coronavirus variant concerns which redirects to this article, for now, to avoid the double entry problem, and then, post-archival, I quick-delete that redirect, and move this page to that, leaving a redirect?  Or do I move this page post archival?  Or any better options? •–•  07:11, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This is quite a lot of wikispeak for what I assume can just be solved by...moving the page now? It's not that dramatic of a change. "France Prime Minister" --> "French Prime Minister". --JJLiu112 (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * please see User_talk:Green_Giant. We have had this discussion just days ago. •–•  14:38, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm still not sure this issue is that serious. We could leave (in fact we should leave) a redirect from France to French, and there'll just be an extra notification for those subscribed...and life goes on? I mean surely they didn't expect an RSS feed of a news site to stay silent, did they? --JJLiu112 (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It is our responsibility to have a smooth flow. Life still goes on for people who can understand the meaning the headline is trying to say, but that argument isn't a convincing one, is it? •–•  15:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I mean...sure. --JJLiu112 (talk) 17:12, 14 April 2021 (UTC)