Talk:Interview with gay marriage movement founder Evan Wolfson

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This is damn good work! --Brian McNeil / talk 08:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Great work. One question, is he founder of the movement world wide or just in the US? Bawolff ☺☻ 21:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about worldwide, but in the U.S. definitely. I know he goes abroad, and he was one of Time's most influential in the world. He was writing about since 1983, and the first worldwide law was 1989 in Denmark. --David Shankbone 21:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

It's great that he supports transgendered marriage
However, he's a little insensitive to transgender attitudes. A heterosexual transgender couple has one or two transgendered individuals who identify as opposing sexes.

The Immigration Department of the United States, and various other Federal Organizations (like say, the IRS) have the policy that they recognize a transgendered marriage only so long as the state that they are in recognize that marriage as heterosexual.

In fact, the vast majority of states do recognize heterosexual transgendered couples, and only four of them refuse heterosexual transgendered people from being married, citing that the birth certificate is an immutable fact determined at birth. Now, the interesting thing is the opposite gender. An MTF and a woman can technically by precident be married in those four states, while they would be denied marriage in the other states as a homosexual couple.

His desire to lump transsexuals into the same category as "same-sex couples", shows a diminished appreciation or acceptance of transsexual affairs, and in fact runs contrary to the two states, which have affirmed a heterosexual transgendered couple as heterosexual, and the other 44 states that simply have not had a legal challenge to those heterosexual marriages, as such they are by default recognized as heterosexual marriages.

The benefits of same-sex marriage upon transsexuals is that the issue of deciding if a person qualifies as a man or woman is removed, and transsexuals and other transgendered individuals would not have to deal with that definition problem. However, by far the vast majority of states (46 states) already allow heterosexual transgendered relationships, and the other four states already allow homosexual transgendered relationships. The problem isn't getting recognition for transsexuals to be married, but rather to allow no ambiguity as to if they could be married, and this will be an issue for each state individually, with again 46 states already allowing an MTF to marry a man. --131.107.0.74 20:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)