Talk:Spain issues arrest warrant for three U.S. soldiers accused of killing two journalists in 2003

U.S. government acknowledges these soldiers killed the journalist
please read the sources before changing titles Neutralizer 20:59, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * indeed even the U.S. says they shot at the hotel, so saying they killed him is simply the truth. a little more reasoning behind your actions would be useful. 130.89.166.46 21:42, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * "Innocent until found guilty". We do not take sides - what you can report on is the reporter's death and the suspicion of the soldiers being the cause of that.  --Mrmiscellanious 21:44, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * if someone just admits its clear in my opinion, that isn't taking sides, that just reporting the information. 130.89.166.46 21:54, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Its not an issue of what actions occured, everyone agrees these soldiers killed these journalists. The issue is simply who gets to look into the matter.
 * It is pretty strange that we use the phrase "accused of killing". The facts recognized by both sides are that there were innocents in the hotel, which was fired upon, and two were killed.  Whether or not this was accidental (which is the sticking point between Spain and the US) doesn't change the fact that it was a killing.  These two journalists didn't just die of old age. - McCart42 (talk) 13:28, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Spanish speaker
Can someone who speaks (reads) Spanish get some sources from Spain in on this? I am sure that there is a lot more information out there.--vonbergm 23:25, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * can't spot anything at http://news.google.com/news?hl=es&region=es&topic=n .. strange --Yonghokim 16:21, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Nice
I like this oddity of Spanish law that "a crime committed against a Spaniard abroad can be prosecuted here if it is not investigated in the country where it is committed." It may not result in extradition, but it should make things more interesting. - Nyarlathotep 19:59, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * good point..Spanish have already pulled a cat out of a hat once with Brandon Mayfield Neutralizer 21:32, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Title
Can someone come up with a longer title? Maybe a little more descriptive? I think it should read "Spanish judge" instead of Spain, since this is really not precise enough otherwise. Also, it should read "killing two and severly injuring 4 others" instead of "killing two" as that does not really capture the whole scope otherwise. Also, it should read "army soldiers" instead of just "soldiers", since members of the other branches of the U.S. military might feel that shooting journalists is only a problem of the U.S. army and they don't want to be unfairly judged. So maybe we should also put the specific division name into the title. Or just the soldiers names? Any other ideas?--vonbergm 23:55, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing this is sarcasm, and it's hilarious. I came up with the long title, after I saw that Neutralizer and MrM were fighting over the "accused of" part.  You can remove parts of this title/description, but it's all the pertinent information, except the "accused of" part.  I guess the fact that it happened two years ago isn't necessary in the title, but it does change the story significantly, as happening during the Iraq war as opposed to sometime more recently. - McCart42 (talk) 13:31, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Reverted to more concise title. Neutralizer 20:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

;-) vonbergm 22:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Silliness . The title, of course, is still misleading because the spanish warrant only accuses the soldiers of killing one journalist. - Amgine / talk 00:45, 23 October 2005 (UTC)