Talk:Time for North Americans to spring ahead one hour

Thanks! I hadn't heard it mentioned in the news all day! -edw 02:23, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * That's a truely fabulous photo. ~The bellman | Smile  03:05, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Surely WikiNews should reflect a more international approach to the NEWS than this? It is not news, please create a WikiPublicServiceAnnouncement for this type of stuff. --GregStephens 03:40, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is getting beyond a joke

 * 1) This is not a North American website! Clocks change at different times all around the world. Plus it's autumn in the southern hemisphere, not spring.
 * 2) Is this news? What's next - 'sun rises this morning'? Dan100 (Talk) 09:49, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, it IS a North American website AND a European web site, AND an Asian web site and so forth. We are global and local. People are free to write about city council meetings in Lima, Ohio as they are international political intrigue originating in Lima, Preu, vandalism at Indonesia's Pandawa Lima Temple or even the Sept. 20 Holy Day celebration in Ponte de Lima, Portugal if they want. If it's not your cup of tea, then don't read it. -- Davodd | Talk 02:45, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * There has to be a reasonable limit to what can and cannot be put in. Does my cat catching a bird (which is highly unlikely) qualify?  No, it does not.  There is a line, anything mundane and irrelevant to the world does not get put in.  Unless of course, you want articles on my cat, in which case I will happily oblige.  Actually this is a fairly important discussion, prehaps this should get moved on to the mainpage discussion?  --GregStephens 02:26, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * On the one hand, Wikinews allows local coverage, as long as enough context is given so that people from an entirely different hemisphere of the planet can understand it. On the other, pieces like this are regarded by traditional news media as "filler" articles.  They are "dead donkeys".  Wiki is not paper &mdash; we don't have column inches to fill.  On the first hand (again), wiki is not paper &mdash; we don't have to "drop the dead donkeys" to make room for more important articles that come along, either. Uncle G 12:22, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No political agenda, eh?
DST is also observed in Canada and Israel, so this is truly an international story. There is also some controversy about DST time as discussed in the Jerusalem Post article.

So this is a newsworthy story.

Wikinews is not a forum for anti-American posturing. I can recommend other forums for such politics if that's what floats your boat. NPOV can apply to story selection as well. Some of us in North America enjoy reading stories about North America. I'm baffled that hatred of America would run so deep that even a story about DST is offensive to someone's sensibilities.

Hundreds of news outlets are covering this story. I understand that if one isn't living in North America, this story might not interest you, but even The Guardian is covering daylight savings time. (The Guardian is hardly a pro-American news outlet.)

Listing articles about American events for deletion just because they don't affect your personal country of residence is a particularly bad faith gesture that does not help to build a community. The definition of "assume good faith" makes an important point that one should not blindly assume good faith:

"'We want people to assume good faith from the outset, but of course we all learn from experience. There is a difference between assuming good faith and ignoring obvious bad faith.'"

This sad episode of listing a harmless article about DST for deletion has certainly been a learning experience for me.

&mdash; DV 11:54, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I personally don't regard any country's use of DST to be newsworthy. Note that there was no article on topic when Europe changed clocks last weekend - I for one didn't write one as I didn't think it was a 'news event'. It's written on my calendar, that's enough for me.


 * But DV please stop telling me that I have a political or personal agenda when I have none. I do not "hate America". Where do you get this idea I'm Listing articles about American events for deletion just because they don't affect your personal country of residence? If that were the case, why I have I only listed two stories out of the tens, possibly hundreds written about North America?! Dan100 (Talk) 18:01, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Your frivolous Deletion requests are corrosive and damaging to the community spirit here on Wikinews. I'll trust the community to judge your actions on the Deletion requests page. You are showing your true colors today. &mdash; DV 18:37, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Dan100 shows xyr true colours by the amount of external promotion of Wikinews that xe does. Going by the comments on message boards that I've tripped over in several places, and the showcasing of Wikinews content on other sites, xe definitely has an agenda. &#9786;  Uncle G 12:14, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Would you have a problem with me writing an article on the change of months? How about the change of seasons?  Trivial matters should not be what the project is about. --GregStephens 03:42, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * What is a trivial matter? For many, the death of a religious leader not of their faith is rather trivial. Wikinews covers the news its contributors consider important. - Amgine 03:49, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed, by GregStephen's standards, we should have no news about New Zealand. There are millions of people who've never even heard of the country. Rather than try to focus on world-shaking news, I look forward to more news about New Zealand and any other country that has something going on. As a matter of fact, if GregStephens can find a cat doing something amusing, I'd even read a cat story, but that's just me. &mdash; DV 07:08, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Answered on user's talk pages
I didn't respond to all remarks, but those users I felt could help Wikinews in the future were answered on their user-talk pages. Thanks! --HiFlyer 16:28, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)