Talk:UN adds to criticism of Australian offshore centers


 * I don't have time to review this one, but I hope it gets published.......looks interesting!! --Bddpaux (talk) 23:37, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of revision 1798261 [Not ready]

 * Thanks for the feedback! I have added the UNHCR reports for both islands from most recent to later (order) in ext. link section. Furthermore, I have added an additional source, which covers the same info as the "propagandist" source. Tweaked the lead. The islands are by definition offshore, but it a notable fact that appears in both reports and news stories. I tried to address your point with a lead tweak adding "uncertain", which is taken up later as "indefinite". Crtew (talk) 15:02, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

It is precise to say there are 221 people (130 + 66 + 25) at the facility in Manus Island. From the Manus Island Report: "43. The Centre was divided into three sections. The first was the Family Compound, in which 130 people, including 34 children, were living. In the second were 66 single adult males of Iranian, Afghan, Iraqi and Kuwaiti nationalities. In the third were the 25 single adult males of Iraqi nationality who had arrived on 12 January 2013 and who were protesting their entry to the Centre." Crtew (talk) 17:35, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd noted the Manus report said this. Others say other things.  Under those circumstances, one would attribute the precise number when using it; the sentence is ambiguously in Wikinews's voice instead of the report's atm, and instead of wrestling with various approaches to attribution I opted for a simple solution.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:51, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I've found no sourcing for the last sentence of the paragraph on O'Connor; I'm postponing deciding what to do about it till I've checked the last three paragraphs. --Pi zero (talk) 18:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

The main idea about brother Michael O'Connor was from the Herald Sun but the last part was a transition based on the poll in the next paragraph.Crtew (talk) 18:24, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't find any mention of Michael O'Connor, nor of any union, in listed sources. My guess is, a source was accidentally left off the list.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Pi, I'm not sure why this is happening but when I click on the link for the Herald Sun, I get get several lines and a sign on (user name and password request). When I search for the title in the Google, I get the full story with this link :http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/locals-losing-out-on-jobs-because-of-high-immigration/story-e6frf7kx-1226568163500

Have you experienced this before? Crtew (talk) 18:56, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

The missing source:


 * Some sites won't give the whole article if you get there from Wikinews, but will if you get there from Google. So google the title of the article.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)