Talk:US Senate approves rules regulating detainee treatment

Ashamed to be American
It hits me daily now.

"Blessed are the peacemakers"....Jesus said that

"Damned are the warmakers"...I said that.

Stories related to US war crimes
Would they go here as "related"? Neutralizer 00:05, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Any evidence
of any americans ever prosecuted for war crimes by an international court? It would be a good background for the story if it ever happened. Is it even possible to prosecute an american for a war crime? Senator Kerry admitted they happened all the time in Nam. Neutralizer 14:40, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


 * answer to second question is that it is possible for the US govt/military to try US service personnel for war crimes, but no international/external authority has the legal authority to try them, i think; and no other country, with its legal powers as a soveriegn nation has ever been able to try US personnel ('ordinary' crimes in okinawa, for instance ). one of the key reasons for US withdrawal on the International Criminal Court statute is to prevent prosecution of US soldiers fighting abroad by the ICC; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court#U.S._objections.

Doldrums 15:35, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, the only international tribunals that existed in history till very recently were the Nuremberg tribunal and the ad hoc tribunals for Ruanda and Yugoslavia. And those were, as you probably know, specially created to prosecute certain high ranking war criminals. And then we have aforementioned International Criminal Court which was established in 2002 and has jurisdiction over war crimes, crimes against humanity etc. commited in member states after the establishment of the court. The U.S., among others, have not ratified the Rome Statue (which established the ICC) and signed countless bilatertal agreement with member states, which require them not to extradite U.S. nationals to the ICC. But if a U.S. national were to commit a war crime in a member state that has not signed these bilateral agreement with the U.S., the ICC would have full authority by international law to trial this individual. --Deprifry | +T+ 17:11, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Link to signature states of the Rome statute by Neutralizer: