Talk:US passes 1000 executions in 30 years

NPOV issues
I've tagged this article NPOV mostly for the section "Debate over capital punishment", which is in severe need of a cleanup. The preceding section is also in need, however it can mostly be fixed with minor edits (which I will perform). A comparison of "support" to "oppose" quotes in the section shows a very bad job of balancing opinions and presenting them in this article:


 * The number of quotes, compared, show a great deal of unbalanced text, and therefore needs to be cleaned up to conform to NPOV standards.

Please fix or comment on the above objections to the article. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 18:02, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


 * You make some good points. Although I'd thought it was made clear by this introduction to the section: "The grim milestone has prompted global outcry from human rights advocates..." I then outlined major media reportage of the advocates' comments etc.

But hey, do whatever you like. Delete it for all I care. But it makes me angry to see such pedantic nuetrality. I clearly stated in the article that there was "global public outcry," then I said what that outcry was.

I'd been enjoying writing a story a day for Wikinews over the last few weeks. But this kind of bias-police uber-scrutiny makes me not want to contribute articles to Wikinews...

I also think others may have changed the text in the article as it seems to be editied since it was published yesterday. Was sure I had more pro-death penalty stuff. --elliot_k 08:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

MrM, You need to get off your high horse on this one. The main body of the article is just fine as is, the bottom part is clearly a long list because there is an aweful lot of high power opposition the death-penalty all over the world; hence it being banned in most civilized places. I would suggest the following: Anyway, your just being a jerk to this poor guy. Nyarlathotep 22:44, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Addition of links to the wikipedia articles on the capital punnishment and Human rights in the United Stated; thus partially reducing our debate to their past debates.
 * 2) Reformulation of the section as two seperate lists, one of pro-death penalty quotes, and open of anti-death penalty quote; thus alleviating much of the POV issue, as anti- quotes can nolonger hide pro- quotes.

Okay, I didn't edit too much, but I changed some structural things, which should reduce POV issues. I've also fixed the AI sentence which started with "Only". MrM is wrong about "only" being POV; however, he is correct that starting a sentence with "Only" is POV. Its a suble diffrence, but an valid one. I don't view the article as POV now, but I think that it could be improved by expanding upon the death penalty support in Japan & Singapore. Nyarlathotep 22:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I think some NPOV issues remain, but overall the article does present two points of view: the government's point that the crime warranted the punishment, as well as a number of other opinions from the opposing point of view. Given the fact that criticism of the death penalty is pretty wide-spread, I think the article is good enough to be published even with some imbalance in the numbers of quotes used. -- IlyaHaykinson 23:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Request
The map is to be replaced with this version. SkyBonTalk/Contributions 17:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ❌ Please read the response I gave on my talk page. The image you propose placing on this article is not the one that was there at the date this article was published. I know, I could do that, but this way there's one more Commoner educated about "preserving a record of history as it was". --Brian McNeil / talk 17:30, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Still ❌. And it won't be until you supply a proper replacement. Please read WN:ARCHIVE. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Bah. I created File:Death Penalty World Map (Dec 5, 2006).png on Commons from the original - likely another reason for whingeing. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)