Talk:Website petitioning in an attempt to save old trillium logo

Original reporting notes
Radio station - CFRB Toronto, Canada

Date - 29.06.2006

Time - 17:00, UTC

Commentators - Christina Chernesky, Radio show

Subject - Interview with PC leader John Tory

If there's something more to clarify, just write me on my talk page...

FellowWikiNews 20:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The PC's disolved. They no longer exsist. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 21:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * are you sure its the federal liberals not the Ontario Liberal Party (which are two diferent entities). To me the article seems like it should be ontario liberals, but is unclear. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 21:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

There's something not quite right with the headline
Is "Internet crusade" just the subject or the subject and verb in the headline Internet crusade to save old trillium logo? If the former, then the headline is without a verb. If the latter, then "crusade" is incorrectly plural. Karen 00:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't to be the verb. But that implies that they are going to save it. As it says in the style-guide says we're not fortune tellers. stuff should be in past tense, already happened, or should have intend to happen, not going to happen, in case it doesn't. Maybe changing title to, intenet crusade plans to save trillium blah blah. Although actually the original title does sound a bit like it has no verb now that I read it. Isn't Crusade already singulur? if you plurilize it, it sounds like the entire internet as a whole is up against the ontario government. oh well this is confusing my little mind, I've never been good at grammer, I don't have a clue what I'm talking about. Happy editing. user:Bawolff


 * How about Internet website petitions to save old trillium logo? Is "Internet website" redundant? Maybe not, I've seen intranet web sites. Used as a verb, "crusades" is singular and "crusade" is plural. - "Bob (singular) crusades (singular) to save the historic landmark" while "Fry, Leela, and Bender (plural) crusade (plural) to end consumption of Popplers." Used as a noun, "crusades" is plural and "crusade" is singular. This sort of confusion occurs when a noun is verbified. Despite all that, the prepositional phrase "to save old trillium logo" describes the crusade, which only implies the intention of the Internet when it crusades (intr.v. cru·sades - To engage in a crusade.), not salvation brought about by the Internet. Assuming "crusade" is actually used in its verb form, "Internet" is then plural. Since there's only one Internet (not counting Internet2), it could imply a collective noun usage - the citizens of the Internet (and others on AOL).


 * "Petition" is just another verbified noun, but a bit less dramatic than a full-blown crusade by the citizens of the Internet (and those on AOL) against the Ontario government (assume mutual exclusivity with respect to Internet access?). I'll change the headline later if there's no objections. Karen 08:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. Mabie we should change it to Website petitions to save old trillium logo? FellowWikiNews 13:28, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Website petitioning in an attempt to save old trillium logo is a bit longer, but satisfies user:Bawolff's issue with sounding like the old trillium logo has aready been saved. Karen 23:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Internet crusade to save old trillium logo
Good article.

""It's wasting time and money fiddling with marketing and logos while gun violence and energy problems go unattended" said, John Tory." Tory calls it a useless use of funds and an inappropriate change because the new logo too closely resembles the flower seen in the Liberal Party banner. And I think he's right. I don't get how the Ontario Liberal Party did this.