Thread:Comments:Author Amy Scobee recounts abuse as Scientology executive/Abuse FROM the TOP:....The NON-Innocence of Amy Scobee

Everything else everyone has written here is Just 3rd-hand speculation. As someone who knew Amy Scobee, and at times worked with her When she was the Big-Shot executive she claims she was ( and The Church is Denying), I have a slightly different perspective. To be Clear: YES, she was the Big-Shot Exec she claimed, and God-fucking help you if you were in her presence and forgot it for a moment! She was the Highest Ranking Executive over the the Entire Celebrity Centre Network. She was above the President of Scientology (who cynically is just top PR rep) and The Executive Director International. I have found her story ( what I have seen and read in the media ) to be compelling, and sounding of Truth, in no small part  because it explains her own atrocious behavior. Italic text It is glaringly obvious that it is just the partial truth, and anything discrediting to both the Church she worked for, AND HERSELF has been carefully and OBVIOUSLY OMITTED. This interviewer in his Zeal to get dirt lets Amy walk away squeaky clean. It makes me nauseous. Other former execs have at least ADMITTED to their own wrong-doings. People like Mike Rinder, have admitted that the violence and abuse DID NOT END WITH THEM, but they actively continued a climate of abuse that they are now ashamed of and would like to atone for. To the Best of my knowledge: AMY HAS NOT DONE THIS. Every Interview I've read has been a soft-ball Interviewer of Poor-Amy. Its worth Noting that Amy is telling the truth about her Position and scope in the CHURCH!! I've read or seen nothing, that ABSOLVES HER from the abusive and sometimes Horrific conditions of People working FOR HER....Furthermore, She makes NO attempt,anywhere I've seen even to put a positive on spin on any and all ugliness beneath her. Nor does she ever even attempt to whitewash it, with accounts of how she tried to make it better for people under her. The Church's attempt to paint her either a minor player,or screwy sexed up bombshell is both ridiculous and insulting to both Amy and her many victims. COS ,the world doesn't care if an executive is whore or if they get fat, but it might care about Staff and Child abuse under an executive. It might care if that executive was a vicious Fascist Terror....

Remember, the Church oF Scientology is Legally liable for anything Negative that occurred under her. So they are not going to air any dirty laundry that would incriminate themselves...Plus any negative situations may NOT have stopped with Amy. I assure you, any of the HARD questions that should be leveled at Top Executives, ( such as David Miscavige )should also be leveled at Amy Scobee. Actually MUCH MORE SO, since unlike other executives who might be handling lawsuits, and programs, Amy Scobee was on the Ground, in "HER CHURCHES" ( I am quoting AMY DIRECTLY, I-was-there ). In my experience---although it was Frequently a joyous and a happy place, to be working there ( a Celebrity Centre,... I'm avoiding naming which one to stay Unknownand avoid Retribution ) --- Being anywhere NEAR Amy was something to be avoided at any cost, if it could be helped. Of course it was something that could NOT be avoided. She would constantly muster the entire staff to scream at them all in person, Like Dogs. WE were NOT even TOLD WHY. She was a WALKING LIVING BREATHING HELL week,( month ? year? ) To be in her presence was To BE ILLEGALLY HAZED!! YES, HAZED...As She practiced GROUP PUNISHMENT, verbally abused, threatened, screamed at,and humiliated good Hard-working staff. So ask Amy, about the living conditions of people working for her... Ask her Why, When her network was taking in MILLIONS of Dollars a week, She housed Humans in Deplorable concentration Camp like conditions 10 to a filthy room in a condemned building without proper sanitation ---while paying $9/$20 a week? ASK HER...? ... Ask her about the Great many times she's forced People to work under sleep deprivation, and never paid them for it? ( Italic textI both  Ask her about People forced to work BY her for 40 hours IN A ROW on their feet? (I include myself here, Sleep Deprivation, Forced Labor ) Ask her whether going through Scientology's work camp shut off her empathy and compassion to human suffering? Ask whether it has returned yet? And if she can see that she was harming the people she claimed to help?

Ask Her what happens to People who stood up to her abuse? Ask her how she treated people who wanted to leave, transfer or just take their promised yearly vacation? Ask her WHO SHEItalic text abused? Ask her if She ever raised a hand to anyone. Ask her about CHILD ABUSE under her watch. Ask Her About why she held a non-Scientologist Security Guard (in Los Angeles,  recruited by her only so he wouldn't have to be PAID!!) who was a PEDOPHILE up to to the "her" Staff ( 250 people and children!!)as the ethical example we "low-lives" should aspire to. Ask her How much sexual-abuse occurred under her, including and especially to underage children and minors. Ask HER about all the Children she deprived of an education who were her responsibility!! Ask her. Ask her why she had children 12-16 years old working in her organizations, knowingly, at late hours, sometimes up to 100 hours a week INSTEAD OF at home in their beds, or at school. Ask her about warping young impressionable minds by keeping them from School, ( 14 years old ) and Making them "Executives" with Dictatorial Powers over adults many times their age? What type of example do you think Amy gave these kids? ... I wonder what kind of abuses, have now FOLLOWED, from Amy's demonstration and abuses of Power?

My personal experiences with Amy were, ( thank-God) limited. But almost all of them I regret. She was without question One of the most-miserable and hateful people I have ever had the misfortune of working under. BUT, I am not certain that "ABUSE at the TOP" is simply a story of shit rolling downhill. Based on the Time-line of her ( and other executives) I think it represents a different story. I have the impression that it is first and fore -most a story of ABUSE BY THE TOP; Including and especially Amy Scobee. I believe eventually, failure to properly take care of and respect and care for the The staff, caught up to the Top Excec Strata of the New Regime ( the top Execs after LRH died in 1984, or after the coup in 1982 ). Wherein the abuse they subjected others to Below them, was NOW FULLY-Leveled at them due to their collapsing stats ( income, new people, completions) and collapsing churches. Of course I am not absolving, any abuse that occurred to Amy or anyone in the Executive Strata, ( INT ). Most of it, I believe was unwarranted and undeserving. But when a former executive like Amy comes forward with Claims of abuse, and claims herself to be largely responsible for a large section of the Scientology network for a long period of time;( and the church denies this while admitting to her post.) We should both accept the story and ask about what They also DID, and what they (Amy) were responsible FOR. I believe that most  aspects of my experience are typical. If anything, Most Staff under her probably had it much worse, since they were there longer and perhaps through worse times. My organization was in general \ doing well, so there was LESS time for AMY to be personally Hazing us. I also was not there for a long time. There easily must be 1000 people who have much worse stories than me about working with her or under her!! Has Amy apologized to ANY OF THEM?!! I don't think so... Although she does have my sympathy, She doesn't deserve yours!!!! She was not just some innocent cog in a machine, She was whip-cracker and would be happily there still doing it if she wasn't removed for her post. If I was still on staff when she was removed, I would have jumped up and cheered. You should have as much sympathy for her, until she acknowledges the pain and suffering she also caused, as a Bio from Eva Braum decrying Adolphs moodiness. Yea, Eva Braum... I am sure this letter will make some wonder why anyone would put up with theses types of abuses (from Amy). I can say that MOST of the time Amy wasnt there Browbeating and Humiliating us directly, and the majority of those times it was a fun exiting even thril -ling place to be with a genuine camaraderie and shared purpose, and visibly positive results ( on public scientologists). You could feel good seeing you were helping people. That said I cant speak for others, just myself. And I had enough Pride NOT to take it. One time AMY held me up to personal ridicule and humiliation in front of hundreds of Staff (for a very minor-dress code violation that WASNT, this sort thing was routine with her,)and I immediately offered my resignation (when I saw none of my comrades had my back). From there Amy spread vicious lies about me to the staff ( Slander ) without my knowledge, rather than acknowledge her own atrocious behavior was the obvious catalyst for me leaving. She falsely put forward the LIE that I removed from staff instead of the truth that I couldn't see myself working under her for more moment! It was many months before I would discover this duplicity, since at the time Amy had me thrown in a basement dungeon! Yes, I am not kidding!I was marched to a boiler room smaller than 5 by 5 feet at GUNPOINT and locked in for the crime of not wanting Amy's abuse anymore!

(So I think I can add KIDNAPPING, and FALSE IMPRISONMENT to my list. ) Amy had me kept locked up without or access to water or a toilet for thankfully less than a workday. Then i was fed ( underarmed-guard) and locked on the roof under armed guard. The rest of week, was partially spent getting a leaving staff security security check ( a mild interrogation, since I wasn't accused of anything ) which i used a personal counseling session.IE, the TRUE PURPOSE of what her organization was supposed to be about. The Rest of the Time, I was Kept Locked under armed guard While eating, sleeping, or LOCKED on the roof. I was NOT allowed to leave, make plans where I was going, or call or communicate with anyone! Eventually after about 5 days, The security Chief personally smuggled me off the roof after midnight under the cover of darkness. I was forced,in the dark, at gunpoint, to climb down a dangerous ladder, 7? stories up?and left in strange dangerous city, post-midnight, without enough money to even eat and sleep for the week!( after working 100 hours a week for only $8-15 week.  At the times staff were supposed to be getting $50 ). To reiterate, This is in NO WAY an indictment of individual Scientologists, public I worked with, or even most of the Staff. The Vast majority i have little but Positive things to say. I have compassion for most. If former friends on staff looked me up, I would be thrilled....Amy, not so much! And let no one think there is a screw him attitude by the the majority. Most people I met after I left, didn't take her made up drama seriously, and were open to hearing the truth( that i chose to leave.). Although,Amy's rumors ( LIBEL) after I left did cost me one good job ( after I was hired ). Lest anything think that Scientology counseling alone hardens hearts ( IT does not ) After I left a number of public Scientologists looked me up, behind Amys Scobees orders and the Celebrity Centres back and HELPED with groceries, and gave me some pocket money. ( more than I'd received in months )I was asked to return many many times,both by individuals and formally ...for years/ ---NAMBY ( N.ot A.Mys BitchYo )

PS: Perhaps responsible news organizations, publishers, talk show hosts ( Anyone paying Amy for her story) Should set aside A PORTION OF MONEY,paid to Amy for her story, for her many Victims. In a fairer world she would be doing little else but making or paying restitution! I believe that if Amy Scobee was just held responsible for crimes committed in her name, under her orders, while she was actually present and in the same building ( A very small standard of accountability for an executive as large as she was ) she would be IN Jail. And not writing books and going on CNN. I am glad she is, But its time some of the spotlight was on her, and her actions. I Have a zero-tolerance policy for harassment. If my Anonymity is compromised, If I get harassing calls. If Amy her ALLies or former Allies in the Church, OSA, private goons, Chanbies,screw with me,...If AMY knows who i am, and tries to expose me ( for harassment sake) Libels, Slanders or degrades me in any wayagain; If any church agency so much as Publishes One MORE negative Lie about myself, I will gostraight to the FBI and be deposed. I will Not screw around.

About Me : Personally, I am no longer a Scientology Staff Member. Like Amy I am also no longer active in the church, nor legally a member. Unlike Amy,I was not thrown out, or ever removed from post. I do still believe that Scientology counseling and drug handling techniques are effective for many if not most people, when applied with love and care. I believe this to be true for seeing personal results. I don't care whether this makes me a churchie or freezoner,a clambot or a rondroid, a SuppressivePerson,A Squirrel or an OSA shill. I just really dont care. ( about these stupid meaning- less labels, or declares ) But dont call me,or anyone a WOG! Its racist to black people! dumb fucks. I dont care what people inside the church, its offshoots or fans OR CHAN-onymists think I am. These are my own words. They are 100% true and NO one but Myself and my conscience has asked me or told me or given me permission to write. I do NOT believe Scientology is for Everyone. As long as the Church, ( or anyone )holds fascist, brutal,

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power-trippers Like Ms. Scobee was, as positive examples of conduct; instead of seeing them as the PROBLEM: there will always be abuses. ( thank-you for reading )