User talk:Borofkin/archive1

Saftey
No i wasnt aware i had spelt that wrong. Thanks for pointing it out. The bellman 07:20, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Admin Voting
Thankyou verry much Borofkin for your vote of confidence for me becoming an admin.--Ryan524 16:36, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Would you like me to delete Friend of asylum seeker accuses DIMIA of harassment? If I get your permission, as you are the original author, I can delete immediately. NGerda 22:00, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * IIRC since other users have edited it you need to let it go through DR. --Cspurrier 22:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, I was slightly confused by the statement on . NGerda 22:05, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Rwanda
Hi there, thanks for nominating Rwanda for the Country of the Week! Hopefully we're on for next week :) ClareWhite 12:30, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * We are! And I've set up a 'news hut' to gently guide my friends into it. It's here and I need all the help I can get :) ClareWhite 15:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

btw: Was that you who just updated the second lead? if so, you're not logged in. - Amgine/talk 05:08, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * That was me, Amgine. And Borofkin, I think it's awesome that you are focusing on events in Rwanda!  We really need this kind of coverage; I'm just sick of hearing about Michael Jackson and the bodies of little girls in Florida being found.  Keep up the good work!  NGerda 05:13, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Get used to the news cycle, NGerda. And apologies, Borofkin... I should have known better, which is why I was wondering. - Amgine/talk 05:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Which news cycle, Amgine? NGerda 05:16, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)


 * Have y'all been following this: Rwanda newshut? In my opinion, the purpose of all of the "recycling" of news, for which we are regularly criticised, is to create a news site and a news community that can support local projects like this. I'm trying to give them a little support. - Borofkin 05:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Just saw that when I came on, Borofkin. Excellent idea, and a very useful project. This is a form of "portaling" which I would love to encourage at any level of locality: a country, a province, a county... even a single high-school, if they would like to produce an online news site about their school. I haven't read exactly what the newshut is up to, but if it is raising the profile of Rwanda, making the country's news available for others, I'm in favour of it. - Amgine/talk 05:26, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm so impressed! Thanks so much for all your hard work overnight! I think this will really inspire my media group, who are so far getting to grips with the technology. I wondered if it's worth putting a link to Country of the Week in the info box? It will raise the profile of that project and let people know why there are all the stories about Rwanda. Woo! ClareWhite 08:17, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Borofkin, I wondered if you might be able to help next week when I'm in Rwanda? I don't know for sure what sort of web access I'm going to have and would like to be able to email someone who could put material up if I can't get to wikinews. Could you be the one? ClareWhite 16:03, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'm hoping it won't be necessary, but from what I'm hearing from the students it may be hard to access Wikinews so I wanted a backup. I will be sure to include full notes with everything and feel free to put the whole email onto a Talk page. ClareWhite 08:23, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Move protection
Hi, sorry I wasn't around sooner! Would you like me to protect your user pages against moves? I highly recommend it. Have a good night :-) Dan100 (Talk) 08:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vandal
Thank you for fighting that vandal last night! NGerda 15:15, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Rwanda 2
Hey, nice work today :-) Dan100 (Talk) 08:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thankyou, thankyou. Clare is in Kigali now, so I'm expecting the hordes to jump in with original reporting any minute. :-) - Borofkin 08:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thank you
thanks. Bawolff 23:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

srebrenica date
Yes... it's July 11, of course! My stupid little mistake. I am correcting it right now. --Dcabrilo 05:58, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Are you an admin? If you are, can you delete the wrong version?--Dcabrilo 06:00, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Still there?
good to see you back, don't lurk for too long. i'm well thanks, been an exciting week in london (not stoke, obviously) and things seem to be hotting up here which is good to see. ClareWhite x

work experience
Oh good, there was I thinking I'd done wrong.. maybe there should be page: what do to if you've been forced here by your work experience master :) ClareWhite 13:15, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

SCOTUS articles
The articles have been merged. ;)Lyellin 23:56, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk page response
Yeah, I'm an aussie expat in exile. I keep reading wikinews on trial runs. I like the idea, but always feel it's more fight than it's worth. That's why I never register... I only have patience in little spurts, you see. 69.23.220.138 06:10, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If little spurts is all you got, that is welcomed greatly! It would be nice to get to know you, though.  :)  -- NGerda 06:53, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Bush Snr hoax
Ghost has spotted that the Bush Snr to go the Forbes conference story was actually a hoax - The Australian. Ghost may write a story on this, but if he doesn't get the chance, could you cover it? Dan100 (Talk) 11:19, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

New Main Page design proposal
I invite you and others to see Main Page Talk, where I have proposed a new Main Page for Wikinews. Best wishes, NGerda 01:48, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Privatization
I thought that if "Privatisation" was an english spelling, then the OED dictionary or other UK dictionary would have that listed. I assumed that since dictionary.com showed no listings in *any* dictionary, that it was not a OE/AE (Original English / American English) spelling issue. -- 00:47, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

If you have a minute...
That's a very interesting article. I have a Katrina-related subject for an article, a group of people creating news feeds via the internet related to Katrina, that I'd like to suggest for you. If you could hop into the irc channel for a minute I could explain. - Amgine/talk 06:25, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

About Thyphoon Nabi Hits Japan...
Hello and thank you for that tip!I heard it from 938 LIVE but how can I put it on the page?

Re: Aussie?
Thanks for your compliment.

I am not an Aussie. I just saw the article and realised it's far reaching consequences, so I published it on wikinews.

train story
Great story, I loved it! But how sad that the headline has been changed from 'laughed' - can't we live a little? ClareWhite 14:59, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

spelling
G'day cobber, glad to have been of help with spelling corrections. :) Boud 21:08, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

US military to buy anthrax and bioweapons production systems
I probably should have looked more closely; I did not see any discussion entry by the anonymous IP on the talk page, or previously in the article, so I restored the NPOV as it appeared to have been removed without addressing the NPOV issues. The article is still biased, imo, but I haven't the time to devote to the article. Thanks for doing that! - Amgine/talk 20:39, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Is Australia in this much trouble?
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australian_Minister_%27leaks%27_draft_of_anti-terror_bill "The inclusion and definition of sedition, which in the bill may include "to bring the sovereign [i.e. the Queen] into hatred or contempt", or to "urge disaffection" with the Australian Government. Australian law does not protect freedom of speech, so this proposed law may effectively outlaw criticizing the Australian Government . It may also effectively outlaw some protests." I am really concerned. Neutralizer 19:54, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship?
I was wondering if you would be opposed if I nominated you for adminship? - Amgine / talk 02:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Excellent! You have been nominated! You will need to accept the nomination, of course. And thanks! - Amgine / talk 03:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship
Congratulations, you are now an admin. --Cspurrier 15:40, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

heads up
Thought you may wish to join in this discussion re; attempted deletion of an info-box you worked on. Neutralizer 13:16, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Bomb scare at Circular Quay
Thanks for that.

We'll see what happens.

I strengthed the article slightly, before I realised I was the only source. :-)

Sorry about that. As you said, can be deleted if it is a misunderstanding somewhere. My colleague was quite clear.

Regards, BenAveling 06:34, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah, but when you said you'd started the article, I thought, "wow, another source!" Minor whoops there. :-)

Thanks again, BenAveling 06:51, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm heading home. I might log in again later tonight. Meanwhile, I'll leave the story in your loving care. :-)

Later, BenAveling 07:29, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Tea
You're right. Just a moment and I'll fix it. And my apologies for breaking the spirit... - Amgine 00:31, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * although on the page you mention adding if you feel annoyed... - Amgine 00:40, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

jasabella would like to speak with you...
jasabella is a user from Sydney, and would like to talk to a real-live-australian-contributor. The nick is in irc at the moment. - Amgine 04:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Did you actually want to meet up for the IR Legislation change Protest? Or did you want to just do our own things? -- Jasabella 05:12, 14 November 2005 (UTC)


 * (note: in IRC again if you wanted to chat in real time - Amgine 05:14, 14 November 2005 (UTC))

Cheers
for yr assistance in the IR story, particularly re photos. --elliot_k 07:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

"De-editing"
"De-editing is removing a users edit privileges. It means that they may view pages but not edit. I have deleted the article "De-editing" that you created, as it was in the article namespace, but wasn't news."

How is it done? Who can do it? When it is done, what record exists of it having been done? --JWSchmidt 04:01, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Van Nguyen
Thanks for your help with the Nguyen article, much appreciated. I just wanted to check something with you. You added the line "It was reported that Nguyens mother would not be permitted physical contact with her son." Are you sure this is entirely accurate? Everything I read said they were not allowed to hug, but it was being reported prior to their final visit that they would be allowed to touch and hold hands. Sarah Ewart 01:28, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcoming wikinewsies
Howdy! Thanks so much for your work welcoming wikinewsies... Lately, I've been inserting rather than just. Doing this actually inserts the text of the template, rather than making a server request for the current template text each time a page is loaded. It creates a tiny bit less server load so I'm thinking it's a good thing. Of course, the other good thing is that the message doesn't change everytime someone changes Template:Welcome! Best wishes... --Chiacomo (talk) 04:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't have a barnstar or other award handy...
But I wanted to say how much I've appreciated your coverage - and level head - the past few days with the articles about Australia. You've been managing some heavy traffic and hot tempers there! Thanks! -  Amgine | talk 00:22, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

WN:TEA enforcement
As manipulative as it sounds, it's a good idea! —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 14:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Anti-racism rally in Sydney
Thanks; I was there but I don't have anything really to add. There was another event earlier in the week starring Cate Blanchett. m.e 10:51, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Runaway foster child found living with pedophile
I've received complaint regarding this article, have unpublished it and tagged it as an NPOV violation. The title is egregious, but the article content is likewise not balanced. Are there additional sources regarding this story? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 20:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The complaint was from an en.Wikinews reader who's an active wikimedian, Oldak. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed that this article became one of the oldest article under "development" category. I wonder if you have any good idea what to do with it. Tomos 18:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

New Zealand
Thanks for your offer, to help me with the New Zealand portal, if its not to much trouble, could you please post a list of all the subpages you made, for the aussie portal. Thanks Brian New Zealand 02:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Just letting you know that I have done the New Zealand Portal for now, (it will be an ongoing update), I based the design, on the nice one you did for the Aussie portal, with a few changes. cheers Brian New Zealand 02:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

ArbCom?
Would you be interested in accepting a nomination for the Arbcom? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 04:48, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for considering! (It's exactly that kind of judgement I hope to see on the ArbCom ) btw: I nominated Elliot K for adminship... -  Amgine | talk en.WN 16:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Australia
I just want to thank you for putting your name down as a supporter of Wikimedia Australia. You are an asset to Wikinews and feel that you could be an even greater asset to a local chapter. Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Australia/Workspace
I like the idea of having an aussie workspace, I might work on one for the kiwi portal Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 01:25, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Policy
It has long since been the practice that we delete any articles that are POV and provide little information. Such "stubbed" articles are covered in the deletion policy. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 02:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 4. Very short articles with no context (e.g., "He is a funny man that has created Factory and the Hacienda. And, by the way, his wife is great.")
 * WN:SD. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 02:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Re Kubby Article, what are you doing!
I'm new to Wikinews, but a long-time editor of Wikipedia, so apologies if the misunderstanding is mine. Your edit took my article off the main page, I need an explanation. Please desist until I understand what is going on. StrangerInParadise 03:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I had a look. There are no news sources cited. I'm sure there are some articles out there. Perhaps StrangerInParadise could dig a few up and link them? --Chiacomo (talk) 03:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

portal
I will see what I can do to attract attention, and talk with devs about it. I think it's a cool idea! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Not you too!
I just got done explaining to Neut why this article is shelved. Did it once, just once, occur to ask me whether this is a good idea? StrangerInParadise 02:23, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Original
Seeing as (I think) you were the first person to suggest that reporting based on transcripts is original reporting, perhaps you might want to investigate this edit. I don't really mind one way or the other, but I'd like to have a clear approach or something to this. Thanks Dysprosia 22:32, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

RE: "Serbian Security Service said to hunt Mladic"
my post to wikinews was put back to status "develop" with a note saying "Serbian Security Service said to hunt Mladic; 22:52 . . Borofkin (Talk) (Create sources section. Put in develop.)" although I have a "Sources" section. I am new to this. please clarify for me. jeffs 15:53, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the reminder
will do sinblox (talk) 02:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

great work on the aus portal
i must say your reporting is commited, kudo's--Whywhywhy 10:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

spag-bol
Yes, the pic did illicit "hunger" from this user! (if it wasn't laced with rat poison) Best regards. -Edbrown05 06:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Computer-Assisted Reporting
Hi Borofkin. CAR is a journalism technique which involves using the computer to do things like original research, finding primary sources, contacting experts, arranging interviews, requesting FOI material, accessing and processing raw data etc. It's usually taught in final year jrn courses because it gets rather in-depth with statistical analysis and data processing. I like your political project idea – it looks good. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 09:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Tracking down IP edits
Well, I'm afraid User:199.126.30.22 is from somewhere in Canada, so the Oz welcome might be inappropriate. I use http://visualroute.visualware.com which gives me a fairly inoffensive email once a month or so for the use of their service. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Dispute resolution
I have created a dispute resolution page for your current dispute. Please excuse me if this is contrary to your intentions. --Chiacomo (talk) 00:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm working on it now. Thanks Neutralizer 02:04, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Borofkin, I saw your edits and like your approach to this. The way I read this, it was planned as a collaborative approach to examine the editing behaviour from and in response to a particular user to achieve some clarity over acceptable use and avoid future conflict. It seems that now you have changed your mind and changed the format away from "type-of-behaviour based" to "people based", which I find counterproductive. What is your reasoning behind this? Did I misread your intentions? Or is there policy in place that forces the "people based" format? --vonbergm 02:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with Vonbergm 100%; I liked your original approach. I got upset when I saw Chiacomo and then Amgine delete SIP's edit and then when you deleted your own diffs it just seemed like the whole thing was turning sour...I put everything back in but now it will look to some like it's just me stirring things up. Neutralizer 02:32, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree totally; touchy,feely is good. Neutralizer 02:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, now I feel a bit better. =) OK, I agree with Neut and Vonbergm on the idea of a common brief, and would suggest reverting to my last, or whatever.  Let me know how you would like to proceed. StrangerInParadise 03:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Response to Borofkin; Sure, a "common brief" on a separate page for the diffs sounds good to me; I am not good with formatting but if someone sets up the separate page format, that would be great. Neutralizer 12:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Generally speaking, when one brings a request for dispute resolution I have two considerations: has the bringing party attempted the other steps outlined on the dispute resolution page; has the bringing party informed the other party of the dispute resolution request? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 22:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

comment every other time the MrM issue has been brought up, Amgine steps in to try to sabotage the process by bogging down attempts like this, by deleting Rfda requests and by deflecting the discussion toward other contributors with uncalled for comments like this he made yesterday to SiP on Cartman's talk page. I am not optimistic about this effort going very far because Amgine and 1 or 2 others have been extremely successful in the past at manipulating/stopping a process like this with bureaucratic sludge and deflections. Neutralizer 13:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure it meaningful to talk about the other steps as applied individually to each person when several people are involved. I strongly suspect that 1, 2, and 3 have been done to varying degrees by various involved people, plus it appears this is only at 4, not 5.  Nyarlathotep 11:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Borofkin, I'll likely endorse whatever you guys eventually write, especially the parts about MrM being hostile to new users, but I don't currently have any new objections to add, nor have I had many encounters with MrM recently. Nyarlathotep 11:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio review
I did look at that. It appears from the Indymedia timestamp it was created there before the Wikinews article creation? (Wishes Indymedia would use something compatible with us) -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:09, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I thought the Indymedia site was on Sidney time? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Just tested, the Melbourne Indymedia site is on +9 or more hours. It's clock is also inaccurate. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Uhm, if the article were posted at 1508 Indymedia time, which is approximately +9 hours, then it was posted at 0408 UTC. The Wikinews article was posted at 1500 UTC, or almost 11 hours later. Which, again, is a fairly astonishing coincidence. I don't know what to say for this case. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | talk

en.WN 04:35, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess I'm not going to contest it or anything, so long as Indymedia doesn't it should be no problem. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | talk en.WN 04:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

DR
Borofkin, That was an extreme unintentional screwup..I don't even know how it was possible? Could it have been an edit conflict? As you can see I was of the same view as most of the edits I apparently deleted so vandalism would make no sense....I really can not figure this one out can you? The only edit I recall making was adding my own agreement with Vonbergm; is it possible a vandal was somehow piggy backing my edit? I am really baffled at this. Neutralizer 13:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Could I have edited an out of date revision? Neutralizer 14:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

joint resolution
I believe that this is a good idea and I fully agree with the introductory statement you gave. So let's condense and focus on the essential parts! (Although my hopes of reaching some kind of agreement here are waning, especially one involving MrM's participation ...) --vonbergm 23:38, 9 March 2006 (UT
 * I think its best to wait for Mrm:s statement whatever he might say. If he dont respond its also a kind of statment. International 23:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This is a great idea, the main dispute page is getting a little long - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 20:54, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Australia day pages
I noticed you created several day pages for the Australia portal. If you would like me to I have a bot that I can run to create these pages for you --Cspurrier 00:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

MrM and RfAr
I have listed the issues with Mrmiscellanious for arbitration as the WN:DISPUTE process is pointless at this stage, due to MrM having no interest in responding- Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 09:31, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have now added my name as an involved party. Neutralizer 14:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not entirely sure you see my motives for bringing the MrM issue to the ArbCom. The Dispute resolution attempt was exhausted and as such we should go to the next step in the chain - the ArbCom. MrM has been given the opportunity to work with us to gain a resolution yet has failed to do so. Given that a week had passed, I felt that ArbCom was the only cause of action left - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 08:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Protest at Sydney Opera House
Are you going to be covering the IR protest at the opera house today? - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 22:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This protest - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 02:36, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

A question
Borofkin, I have a question for you. How close does Wikinews allow people to fly to copyright? I understand that most of the articles here are derivative, but I've been noticing for a while now that when you look at the articles by one particular editor, they are often just one paragraph taken from different articles with one or two words changed and then pasted together. Sometimes no words at all are change. I consider this to be a copyvio, is it here on Wikinews? Sarah Ewart (Talk) 01:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply (and Amgine as well). Next time I notice something I'll tag it. What I noticed today wasn't as bad as some of the previous ones, but FWIW this is an example :


 * Wikinews: "The couple accepted flowers and chatted with the crowd for a few minutes before being driven off in a black Rolls Royce."


 * : "The royal couple accepted bunches of flowers and chatted with the crowd for a few minutes before being driven away in a black Rolls Royce."
 * Thanks again for your reply. I appreciate it. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:20, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Investigative Reporting
Thanks for the offer of help, I may take you up on that too :) - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 01:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)