User talk:EVula

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Edit on Talk:U.S. Senators call for Idaho Senator Larry Craig to resign
✅ Thanks for pointing that out. :) irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e]  21:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC) I'm really just killing time right now; IRC is the devil when it comes to eating up time. I doubt my girlfriend would appreciate me being late in picking her up... EVula // talk // 21:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, thanks for the quick turnaround on that request. I'm starting to pay more attention to Wikinews, and I'm missing my mop on en.wp and Commons every time I trip across something more than a couple of days old. :) EVula // talk // 21:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, fortunately for you, it's not hard to get a mop here. I call myself a Janitor, in fact. [[Image:Smile.png|20px]] irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e]  21:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe, trust me, I've already eyed the requirements. :) My first "real" edit was at the beginning of August... dunno if that counts as "two month's work" though. Not really worried about requirement #2; been an admin on en.wp for a little over 10 months, a Commons admin for a couple of months, and I'm active on a ton of other projects. :) EVula // talk // 21:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Poke me some time if you want a nomination. I'd gladly throw you in front of the lions.
 * By the way, talking is much more fun in IRC. If you have an IRC client, join us here. irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e]  21:57, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the consideration. I might very well take you up on the offer. :)

On being nominated
Well, I'm out of town for the moment. When I have an internet connection which doesn't resemble a 56k modem, I'll take a look at your editing history and see what I can do. :) irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e]  03:58, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha, that works. Worst case scenario? I have more edits under my belt. Hardly a bad thing. :) EVula // talk // 04:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Nashville flooding
Nice picture, thanks! – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 12:27, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I just wish I'd had a nicer camera with me at the time than my iPhone. *shrug* EVula // talk // 16:28, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh, it works. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 16:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

privs
'''Note! Your privileges on English Wikinews have been reduced.'''
 * Under the Privilege expiry policy (enacted October 13, 2012) the rights held by your user account have been reduced due to inactivity, or lack of privilege use.


 * The privilege reduction is in no way intended as a reflection on your past work, or to imply you are unwelcome. The aim in curtailing privileges is to address security risks, and concern that a long period of inactivity means you may not be up-to-date with current policy and practices.



--Pi zero (talk) 00:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I had to look up what those revoked privileges were... I don't really have much of an issue with the rights being removed, though I do think that people should be given a heads up first (which is how we handle removing inactive sysops at enwiki). *shrug* EVula // talk // 07:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, this may be surprising, but Wikinews is different from Wikipedia; your concern was discussed at the policy talk page:
 * I had the exact same question (find "Would the candidates for expiries be warned about that in advance?" on that page)
 * And it was discussed near "The point about notification was raised" phrase closer to the bottom of that page.

The point is: if people are notified in advance, they may come back and make a "token edit" (ie a small edit just to use the privs) and be technically active, while in practice otherwise.

It's ok if you disagree; this is no way I want to convince what is universally right or wrong, or that en.wp is wrong -- the proper behaviour may vary at different projects.

As always, happy holidays & happy new year. :) Cheers, --Gryllida 10:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I agree that a warning might get someone to make a token edit... but at the same time, you might get someone to actually start paying attention to the project again. It's more of a net gain than a net loss. For example, the one time I got a "hey, you're about to be desysopped" message on Commons, I made the "token" ten administrative actions, and kept my flag... and have used it considerably more in the time since that message. I'm not saying I've single-handedly changed the course of Commons or anything silly like that, but if I'd just gotten a "you're desyopped" message from them, I would have been screwed and every deletion that I've done is something someone else would have had to do, taking them away from other things... basically, by giving me a chance to make ten token edits, they've gotten a hundred+ subsequent non-token edits. A net gain for the project just by giving me advanced notice.


 * Part of the difference of opinions comes from the fact that I'm not terribly convinced by the paranoia surrounding inactive accounts; I think the risk is significantly lower than people make it out to be. I can moderately understand it for bureaucrats and administrators, since the damage they can do, while technically reversible, is much more of a pain in the ass to sort thru. However, I think bundling the reviewer right in with the rest is a mistake, though consider my point of view: I've got the equivalent right on eight other projects, even though I don't edit on those projects all that often (mainly because I do interwiki edits on the non-English projects where I have the flag), which makes my participation unpredictable, and I request the right because I don't want anyone to waste time going thru my edits just to approve them. I consider myself a wikignome, and a wandering one at that, so the reviewer flag lets me make edits that need to be made, but that aren't controversial at all.


 * Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed or anything about the flag getting taken back; I very clearly wasn't using it at all, and I'm well aware that "adminship on Commons" is a different scope than "reviewer on Wikinews." I just disagree with the local policy (which is no big deal; there are plenty of policies at enwiki that I disagree with), but in my experience, I think that the policy could be better. As it stands, right now I have no inclination to start editing here again (considering how many other projects I'm semi-active at, while balancing Real Life), whereas I might have if I'd been prompted to make some token edits.


 * But that's just my opinion, and one that ultimately doesn't (and frankly, shouldn't) matter very much. :) EVula // talk // 16:07, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * What a shame...I always hate seeing old users leaving. Well I hope one day you decide to come back. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh, considering how much I jump between projects, I'm sure at some point I'll pop back over here; it just won't be until I get burnt out somewhere else (which happens regularly) and, honestly, I'll need to get tired of playing Skyrim, which I just started. ;) EVula // talk // 16:16, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oo, that looks like fun. Well, enjoy. :-)   --Pi zero (talk) 16:42, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If you start playing it, you'll soon find yourself getting your own PeP applied. ;) EVula // talk // 16:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)