User talk:FellowWikiNews/Archive 3

The Agassi article
Good stuff. Well done. irid:t 10:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  16:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

labour day charges
By charges do you mean arrested or fined? Over here in the uk for example charges would mean fined but charged would be arrested. Using fined or arrests would proably be clearer for a global audience! --Errant 21:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that makes it alot clearer! --Errant 01:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Archiving
Want to do the rest of 27th last month? Archiving is an interesting job, but it does lead to you being an expert on old news. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure. I like to help out. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  20:34, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Story
I have no time to write today or at least right now. Ralph Bucky Phillips in New York ahs been cought. I was wondering if you would write the article about that (see second lead for more info). I just don't have time. Jason Safoutin 20:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Good work on the Bucky Phillips article. If I was not out getting drunk at the time of his capture, I would have gone to Fredonia, NY just to be there for it. Good work :) Jason Safoutin 20:37, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews Canada Logo
Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't like your Canadian Wikinews logo - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Wikinews_Canada.png Do you mind If i make a different one?


 * Please make a better one because I didn't do a very good job. Mabie you can make a better one. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  20:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Have a vote!
Hey, take your time today and Rock the VOTE, by voting for me! I'm looking to get accreditation, and hey, even MrM voted for me, so you should to.

Accreditation_requests terinjokes User Page / Talk 22:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Asking for requests is probably the worst thing you can do. Administrators constantly review the AR page. I haven't advertised for mine yet, but I expect the admins to look at it later. Thunderhead (talk) 03:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It sounds like Terinjokes is asking everyone to vote support. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  00:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't get me wrong; I want support, but if I have to beg, they don't want me. Thunderhead (talk)   00:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats what I meant. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  00:09, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Remember...
To add the province a story take place in a category, as it helps build the size of the province's portal, and encourages people from that area to read and participate more. -- Zanimum 15:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin?
I'm interested in becoming an admin. Would you consider nominating me? Crimson 21:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure. You seem like a good contributor that can help the Wikinews community :-) F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  21:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, so what do I do? Can you create a nomination entry for me or should I do that?Crimson 22:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No, thats my job. All I have to do is to go to Administrators, follow the easy steps, and after 7 days a Bureaucrat will give you admin status. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  22:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You got my vote! Thunderhead (talk) 23:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * What vote? F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  23:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin Alert
Please visit this, there is a dispute that this user is webhosting his stuff. It says on top "THIS IS A SELF MADE SITE TO SHOW MY WEBPAGE". Anyways is there a wikinews template message in relevance to be placed in his page? Zer T 22:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:One Question
How would I take that the wrong way? Anyways, I joined WN a while back, as Urameshi2, however, when I came back, and got interested in it, I was known throughout the internet as 'Thunderhead'. I didn't want to destroy the WN servers by requesting a rename, so I just sign as 'Thunderhead'. I mean, if you want me to request a rename, I don't mind, but, just trying to save some time. :) Thunderhead (talk) 15:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Allegations
Make sure to label allegations as so, including in titles. -- Zanimum 17:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin
Thanks for supporting my successful admin nomination! Crimson 17:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

breaking and canadian
Hi,

Are you aware that when you use and the Canadian news template together the text can run together as both assume they have the full browser width? I'd noted in my edit summary that the Canadian box should be re-introduced when breaking is dropped, I see it's back and it looks messy to me in Firefox. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I use IE and it looks fine. I will take off the Canadian news template until Breaking is removed. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  19:59, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * a workaround is to place the template below the breaking template. works for me on Fx and IE. Doldrums 20:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

speedy
as the template says, articles tagged notnews are nominated for deletion, not speedied. Doldrums 15:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, but the article that I deleted should have been speedied anyways, imo. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  15:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Thank you for the welcome. I confess to struggling to form a reasonable article but doing my best to conform to the style etc. Learning ia a slow process. Thanks again Fentonrobb 17:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  17:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Note
Oh yea. Srry about that =]

Lost article help please?
I have 'published' an article "Blunket defines the main task for us all" and it seems to have got lost somewhere - I can find it in Recent Changes but nowhere in the news - what have I done wrong? I have askad this in Main Talk page and water cooler also - sorry to be a pest - newbie! Fentonrobb 13:02, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

WN:A modification
I noticed you reverted my addition on the grounds that it had "no consensus." I thought it was generally accepted that once a user resigns, they're no longer considered admins, because otherwise we'd still consider Amgine an admin, right? —     00:16, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I have responded on the Wikinews IRC channel. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  00:40, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up articles - how to edit/link to previous reports?
Thanks you for the offer of help. I can't find how to edit followup articles and link them with earlier reports. For example, I did a piece Jack Straw, Leader of the British House of Commons urges Muslim women to drop full veil and in that I reported that Downing Street had distanced itself from Straw's position. This was significant at the time. Later we learn that Bown supports Straw's position, but that Blair refused to answer the direct question about whether or not he does too. It's abit late now, but how do you think these subsequent reports should have been linked to the original one?

I imagine that there is a conventional way of doing this, but there is so much 'ehlp' informaiton that it's difficult o find sch an item. I'd value your advice.

Fentonrobb 20:37, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * A useful tool is to include a selection of recent articles that relate to the new one. This is called Related news.

This is the template that you would use:

*

See the Style guide. It has a lot of handy information that you can use. F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  20:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Spot on - thank you very much - Fentonrobb 23:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

In the dog house!
Brown supported Iraq war to save job

seems to have excited some VIPs in Wikinrews but I have responded now. What happens next? Do those who have objected have to authorise publishing or can I remove their objection and publish myself?

Originally I put 'scared Brown' but have removed the adjective. Apart from the Diaries themselves, this certainly was single sourced but, looking at many other articles that's not a crime. I have added another soource.

I was upset by the non-NPOV accusation, because I had been careful to include Brown's response.

As you know I am a newbie. so a word of friendly advice now would not go amiss!

Fentonrobb 21:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * As you know every Wikinewsie -including myself- gets upset about NPOV disputes. We all have a right to our opinion but in this case of a dispute we could discuss it on the talk page or just take away the tag and make it more NPOV. Well, the former title Scared Brown supported Iraq war to save job was very POV. Doldrums only commented about the title so I'm sure that it can be published. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  21:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I understand that and have changed title again to Blunkett: Brown supported Iraq war to save job. Do you think that should be OK now? Fentonrobb 21:52, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure, I don't see anything wrong with the article. It's short but well written and complete. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  22:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you - that's most helpful - now what happens? Would it be courteous to contact Doldrums and ask for a release? Fentonrobb 22:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Hi FellowWikiNews,

thanks for voting in my RfA, which passed 4/1/0... not a big crowd but I'll still try to be the best admin I can be. If you have any advice for me, or need help, you know where to find me!

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

USDA raids hog farm
I wrote the article about the USDA raiding the Henshaw's hog farm in September. I contacted the Henshaws personaly to verify the reports. This story was not getting any press and I thought this is what Wikinews was for. My father just moved to Virginia in late September and said that the story is just now getting out. Especialy now we need to verify and replace this story. Is there anyway to recover what was deleted? I will check my files...

RE: Revert
Actually, It really inist working in Opera. I don't know why, just want to let the webmasters know. Thanks. New Newsie 21:55, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Commas and Numbers
Note that in NZ it is not standard to have commas used as thousand separators, we use spaces per norm. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 01:04, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. I saw the comma and thought that it was not added for some reason. Should the comma not be removed since Wikinews is international? F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  02:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Holy edit conflict!
Dude, how did you know I was going to update the third lead with the Wal-Mart story? ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  22:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That's strange! I seen you updating the leads in recent changes and decided to update the third lead with the Wal-Mart story :-) F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  22:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews capitilization in Mediawiki:Sidebar
I reverted you as it doesn't seem to make much difference except in the id="p-W/wikinews" field. If we want to capitilize it, it could be acomplished in CSS (see View->page style->Datrio+MrM for example in firefox for example. if your using Opera,hunt through menus, if your using MSIE get a real browser/ edit special:mypage/monobook.css). Bawolff ☺☻ 02:12, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit Summary
Please try to remember to use edit summaries. :) It is very confusing when you revert something and because of the lack of summary, I do not notice it. On a related note, why did you revert my moving of the start a new article box? I rather liked it down lower.--Cspurrier 04:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I reverted because it (imo) looks better on the top. Next time I will try to explain why in my edit summary, especially when editing the main page :) F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  19:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

blocking
reg. User:Como dis Jamakia, User:Jwiaaap. since when did we start blocking accounts indefinitely for a single bout of vandalism? &mdash; Doldrums(talk) 06:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's pretty clear that User:Como dis Jamakia and User:Jwiaaap arn't here to contribute to Wikinews. On a related note, you also blocked this user indefinite for some vandalism.  F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  19:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * that user was a sock of a twice blocked user. &mdash; Doldrums(talk) 19:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Those users both deserve to stay blocked because they are vandals. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  19:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

wikinews CSS
for a list of them, you may be intreasted in Skins (If that don't work, try Skins/Monobook-minnor. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:24, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

California Wikinewsies
Do you know of any California Wikinewsies, or even Wikimedians in general. This is somewhat urgent. -- Zanimum 21:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I don't. You should try IRC or Wikipedia. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  21:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That's okay, thanks. I can pretty much officially say we've not got the Oscars. Despite my best efforts, they won't accept the blame for not sending me a copy of the credential application on time, something I have multiple reasons to blame them for. Anyway, have to pester the Academy monthly from now until this time next year, to make sure they acknowledge the internet's 10th most popular site as legit. --  Zanimum 22:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Too bad you couldn't find anyone that was from California :( F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  22:14, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Wisdom of the Day
You were from Wikipedia? And your name was FellowWikiNews? Thunderhead (talk) (Check out my RFA test) 00:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, my username on WP is FellowWikipedian. There is a link to it in my signature :) — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  01:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, oops. I should have known that :P. But yeah, I didn't know you were originally from 'Pedia. I thought you started here. Thunderhead (talk) (Check out my RFA test) 01:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm getting less active on WP. I spend most of my time on WN. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  01:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yep, I am Thunderhead1 on the 'Pedia, but I hardly ever use it. It's like Messed's w:User:Glenn Quagmire account. Thunderhead (talk) (Check out my RFA test) 01:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm a long time user on WP, but since I became an admin here it has changed. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  01:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

IRC
FellowWikiNews, I'm sorry things haven't worked on IRC. The CGI IRC is a piece of shit; do not use it. If you are allowed to install software on the computer you have, get an actual IRC client (such as mIRC), then once you install and load mIRC, type  and you will be on the live chat in no time. ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  02:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you use firefox, try chatzilla, I find it works well. (Search for it on the firefox extention site). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Indeed.
Sorry about that. I'm used to Wikipedia where "delete" simply means delete.
 * Well, welcome to Wikinews, the free news source that you can write. Wikinews is not Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Take a look at Wikinews' policies and guidelines for more info :) — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  20:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Brad and Angelina's bodyguards arrested after saying racial slurs to parents
Thanks for pointing that out. I believe I could write better than that page. What do you think? Nearly Headless Nick 17:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The article that I already published was written by someone else. Mabie you can try to provide your article with new information? That way we don't get two articles with the same topic :) F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  17:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I suggest we delete the old article. Its not well-written, really. And we need to provide more details, don't we? I am also including the comments made by Brad and Jolie after the incident. Regards, --Nearly Headless Nick 17:26, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok. I will delete the old one. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  17:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Fount/font
Thanks for all you help improving several of the articles I have started. We seem to disagree about the Times article. Re the title - I took my lead from wikipedia where The Times seems sufficient (though I forgot to capitalise the article! But re the fount/font. I know this former is archaic but it is the spelling usd in the report by the paper's designer and out of respect for the soruce I judged it proper to use it, the English spelling, for an English paper. It spelling has been changed, inspite of my remarks on the discussion page explaining this but no explanation has been given by the editors who made the change. I am a newbiew and get quite confused by the wiki protoco; at times. Please would you kindly explain the grounds for making this change or revert it to 'fount' :-) Fentonrobb 09:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I would recommend to use font instead of fount because other people have reverted it (not just me) and most people use the word font. Regards :-) — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  19:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Although I do not really agree with your argument, I have added 'or font' and revertd all else to 'font'. But I think there is need for some policy here. I ran into a similar problem when someone complained that I had used English spelling when quoting an English speaker verbatim. _Apologies - this belongs, of course, to wikinews. Fenton Robb 19:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I was confused when reading The Times article after seeing fount instead of font, thus the reason why I changed it to font. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  04:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Adminship thanks
Hi there! I'd like to thank you for your support to become an admin, it's greatly appreciated! -- Zanimum 14:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

reverting Mink's edits
Mink's copyediting improved the WW1 vets article considerably. it was also made on Nov 22, the date of publication of the article and doesn't really go against the policy of not not making changes in content after publishing. i think Mink's edits shld be incorporated into the article. &mdash; Doldrums(talk) 21:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Contest
You can join anytime, however everyone is judged the same at the end, so you have to do a bit of catching up! ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  01:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I have joined the contest! F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  01:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Style
Hi, I totally disagree with your thoughts on reverting to the headline "State funeral approved by Canadian House of Commons" from "Canada's Commons OKs State Funerals." But, I'm not going to argue, fuss & fight with you over it. I think the head as written - and the article - both need serious attention. Wikinews writers (for the greater part) do not meet professional news writing standards. Simply put, they're atrocious. The head "Canada's Commons OKs State Funerals" states the important facts. The wording "State funeral approved by Canadian House of Commons" is excessively lengthy, and from the perspective of the information contained in the article, wholeheartedly accurate. That is, there will be funerals, i.e. more than one (three, to be precise). So, verb tense is one of the most egregious errors present in the head as it is reverted. I understand you're upset because it's your original work, that is, you started the article. In that sense, you feel a sense of pride and ownership in it. Of course, that sense of pride is good. But an editor's job is to make the original work better. And, as the page states, if you don't want it edited mercilesly (which I did) don't post it. But I'm not gonna' fuss & fight with you over it. It doesn't meet professional standards, and certainly doesn't meet any standard of writing (much less news) of which I'm aware. When you have the interest or desire, I recommend becoming familiar with the AP Style Writer's Guide, or as it's now called the AP Stylebook. http://www.apstylebook.com/ So, have at it and enjoy your Thanksgiving! Mink Butler Davenport 05:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)