User talk:Leighblackall/2009

Welcome
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 * This welcome message would have probably been a lot more useful to you.

It would be useful if you can keep notes on the - er - "jarring" aspects of coming to Wikinews with a Wikipedia background. If you can see ways to improve the above-linked page for Wikipedians, please do suggest them. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Good suggestion Brian, will do so. And thanks for the invitation. Leighblackall (talk) 20:47, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * But, please, condense it as much as possible. Nearly 1kb to say "reviews will be hard, critical, and perhaps blunt" is a bit much. The issue is, once reviewed and published to some extent it's done; the article will be indexed by Google within 10-15 minutes and that is what people will be reading before someone can fix it. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Recuse yourself
Off-wiki you demonstrate a clear "climate change denier" POV. You have demonstrated it here. Any journalistic publication seeking to maintain its integrity would never have asked you to work on such a story, at least based on your October 3rd tweet, "Global Warmimg disproved: http: // bit.ly/bpisp". (http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/9/29/the-yamal-implosion.html - bitly is blocked by the spam filter).

Leave it. You're not going to get what you want published. You still assert the emails prove what you want to believe, and you've a bloody nerve calling Wikinews any sort of tabloid when that is, quite frankly, the only sort of place would publish your initial draft submitted for review.

I suggest asking ex-Australian Rupert Murdoch if you want a break in journalism. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You're mistake here is spectacular Brian, and the issue is your own making. I have tried to remain polite and respectful to you, but your comments and remarks broke my patience and now I am on the offensive! This CRU story obviously a news worthy story, and I have done all I can to represent the story, including removing all possible bias in the text. Yes I have a Climate Change skeptical POV, who doesn't have a POV on things they read about! But the real issue here is whether I have done enough in the story meet the review standards, and whether Wikinews (you) are open to diverse reporting community. My POV, (if it is not evident in the story) should not matter! It would not matter if I had of edited by alias, you would be none-the-wiser!


 * The second issue for me is that I asked you respectfully to help improve the article so that it makes your review standards. I wanted to learn, and wanted the story to get published. You "humoured me" and persisted with public insinuations of my motives!


 * The third issue for me is that I put this story to Wikinews because I hoped the community would help deconstruct it! Who knows, my Climate Change POV might have changed!! Instead it has been confirmed and I even question your motives.


 * So, this news story has not gone out because of your POV about my motives, despite my repeated assurances of honest motive and evident willingness to address the precise problems you point out in your reviews. That along with your comments and innuendo is just flat out rude and unwelcoming to someone who might have become a prolific contributor on a great range of stories! I had/have a genuine interest in Wikis, have authored 3 books in Wikibooks 1. Permaculture Design 2. Sustainable Business 3. Anthropology of Animals. I'm a wikiversity custodian and authored the course Facilitating Online and many others, lead Otago Polytechnic into using Wikieducator for their open educational work, and about to help lead the University of Canberra to Wikiversity. It is a grave concern to me to encounter people like you who could effectively block these efforts when things don't go your way. I am familiar with Wiki etiquette and believe you have made a bad call here, owing me an apology, and either editing the story to meet standard, or publishing it because of its news worthiness. If your concern is that this story will attract an over whelming number of bias people, I can appreciate that - and will honestly do my bit to help maintain balance and objective reporting as best I can.


 * I'm about to write another story about the Crawford Report in Australia. It has nothing to do with climate. It is about sport. I have a POV about that too, but I will try to report it honestly and objectively. This point is I have an interest in contributing to Wikinews on any number of fronts! How unfortunate to encounter your bias and stubborn resistance that discourages my efforts considerably. Leighblackall (talk) 02:19, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Argh! Huge reply! And - my apologies - I didn't notice until way, way after the article went up and I'd criticised it getting a passing review. I would have rapped RockerBall over the knuckles for absolutely any author on that article, it was not directed at you. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:06, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok. All clear. I guess its too late to make the major edits you suggest... fyi, and no comment on your standards, but I'm getting good feedback on the article.. from Australians mind you.. so perhaps their local knowledge helps in understanding. My lesson for next time. Leighblackall (talk) 05:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Crawford report article
FYI, I failed Australian sport may be on the cusp of change due to style issues. Sources shouldn't be linked to in article text and the writing style was a bit choppy for a news article. Check my comments on the articles talk page--RockerballAustralia (talk) 07:54, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks RockerballAustralia, have replied more in the talk page of the article. Nice to see it got through - quite motivating :) Leighblackall (talk) 01:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

merge about CRU hacked emails
Please join the discussion here: Talk:British_Climatic_Research_Unit's_emails_hacked Gryllida (talk) 11:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Have done so Gryllida, thanks for the invite. Leighblackall (talk) 01:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The article has been published. Thank you for your collaboration! Gryllida (page, talk, contributions) 00:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)