User talk:NGerda/Archive 2

This is User talk:NGerda Archive 2, performed at 19:00 UTC on June 19, 2005.

=Archive 2=

Audio News
Hi Nick,

I just listened to a couple of your audio broadcasts. This is excellent work, you're a great speaker with a very clear voice; the technical quality is also superb. One thing I noted is that your pronunciation was a bit off on a few words. An example was "Jacques Chirac". No criticism: I'd get a lot more of those words wrong, being a native German speaker. One good starting point for many pronunciations is Wikipedia -- in this case, Jacques Chirac even has an audio file. Besides Wikipedia, there's Commons:Category:Pronunication. Perhaps we should make a list of words that are frequently mispronounced in news stories and link them to pronunciation files on the Commons?--Eloquence 23:25, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Great suggestion, I'll definitely take that into consideration when I start my next broadcast in about an hour. I'll try to take commonly mispronounced words and link to their correct pronunciation within the Audio Wikinews transcript.  I do speak Spanish fluently, but I am a little hazy at my French and Italian pronunciations.  Until now, I've played it safe and tried to pronounce the names in an American accent, but I will definately get the native pronunciations down now.  Hearing from you is great!  Check out WNN, and thanks for listening to the show!

Transcript Format
I'm learning radio production at the moment through my local NPR news station, so I would like to contribute to Audio Wikinews in the near future. On transcript format I can already contribute. In this example Ive reformatted some of a transcript of yours to make it correspond to conventional radio-news style:


 * Writer -- Cart  --   Duration     --      Total        --            Slug                 --    Date
 * Nick -- (name of file of actuality)   -- (dur. of actuality) -- (total dur. of recording)  -- Defense Dept. Denies Funding    --   6/3/05 5:23 UTC
 * THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS DENIED FEDERAL FUNDING TO TWO LAW SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT ALLOW MILITARY RECRUITERS ON CAMPUS. ...
 * [Cart No: (hard-drive location and name of actuality-file]
 * Time: (duration of actuality, in seconds)
 * Title: (name of actuality, should include speaker's name and subject of soundbite)
 * Out-cue: (The last few words spoken before the actuality cuts off)
 * 
 * IN THE FALL THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IS LINED UP TO HEAR A CASE INVOLVING SEVERAL COLLEGES REGARDING MILITARY RECRUITMENT AT UNIVERSITIES.
 * 
 * IN THE FALL THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IS LINED UP TO HEAR A CASE INVOLVING SEVERAL COLLEGES REGARDING MILITARY RECRUITMENT AT UNIVERSITIES.

Note: Capitals are a common radio scripting convention but are certainly not required. An actuality is a cut to a source. Sometimes an actuality is complete report recorded by a reporter other than the host. In that case (called a "spot", or "package"), the actuality must be introduced with "(Name of reporter) reports:". If the host is the reporter (a "wrap"), the actualities are interview soundbites and should be inroduced with "(Title and name of source, context of quote)". The purpose of going to an actuality is to make the news sound authoritative and to break the monotony of a single voice.

When scripting, avoid just reading the news as it is on Wikipedia. Ask yourself, "Can someone listening for the first time understand everything?" Other standard advice: limit numbers; one thought or fact per sentence; keep word choice simple; pay close attention to verb tense and use of active verbs.

Good luck! Kevin 17:19 Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Block
I am compleatly sorry man, i acted without even thinking, dang impersonaters.--Ryan524 06:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL! It's okay, I forgive you.  You've learned your lesson.  At least it was me!  NGerda 06:58, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

WikiNews Network, Audio Wikinews
I've raised some concerns about these on the Water cooler (under policy), could you take a look? Dan100 (Talk) 12:37, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

COTW Map
No program. I manually update it using good old fashioned Paint. The numbers come from Ronlines userpage (which I actually maintain! - im going to move it to its own namespace soon.) I also have created both Africa and maps. I was intending to create a great and hopefully eyeopening page about article distribution - but never got the time... i'll do it now... maybe... → CGorman (Talk)  16:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The reason I was asking was because I was interesting in helping you out with it. NGerda 16:49, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * When I have the namespace set up you are more than welcome to help with keeping stats up to date... I just don't think you should edit Ronlines userpage in the meantime; its bad ettiquette. → CGorman (Talk)  17:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, and check out IRC.

Medal
Wow I can't believe is getting such use - I created it in 5 minutes one evening after a very bad attack from the Ass puss vandel to boost moral. → CGorman (Talk)  17:13, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * LOL NGerda 17:14, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

'Breaking news'
I see no-one is removing this after a story is no longer 'breaking' - I've just had to. In doing so, I've made a bunch of old stories rise to the top of DPLs, making them look newer than they are. I can't see anyway of removing the cat without editing a story, which would have the same effect.

The Wikinews website has to come first, before any off-site application. Dan100 (Talk) 17:34, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * How does a Breaking News category hinder Wikinews? NGerda 17:36, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

As I said above - removing them, when people haven't done so, means old stories float back to the top. Is is you adding them? How about you remove them after a few hours when the story is no longer 'breaking'? Dan100 (Talk) 18:06, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me :) NGerda 18:08, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

3RR
NGerda, a user only breaks the WN:3RR when a user reverts for the fourth time. I only reverted twice. Dan100 (Talk) 10:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) "Don't revert any page more than three times within a period of 24 hours." -3RR


 * ah block him for 24hours then...lol...he could use it, maybe then he'd stop raising my blood pressure, :P--Ryan524 15:40, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Dan100 is correct, it is the fourth revert that is banable --Cspurrier 16:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah i mis-understood what Dan100 was saying, i thought he was telling NGerda after he (NGerda) reverted something a fourth time....lol....but also note the 3RR does not apply to obvious vandalism.--Ryan524 16:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Audio News
I'd be interested in doing a daily broadcast of Wikinews. How would I go about this? You seem to be the current dude who is responsobile for all of this. Cheers --Matt von Furrie 10:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

New AW release
Here's my new release, to be uploaded to WNN: [[Media:20050612-2330UTC.ogg|June 12, 2005 - 2330 UTC: Audio Wikinews]] --Mrmiscellanious 23:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

**** Congratulations on adminship ****
Belated congrats. All the best. Paulrevere2005 17:08, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What
Why did you delete several weeks of data by reverting my recent edits at Awareness statistics? → CGorman (Talk)  17:53, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * No prob, just be careful with that mouse. → CGorman (Talk)  21:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It wasn't the mouse, it was the database. NGerda 21:12, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * That was supposed to be a bad joke! I know it was the database. → CGorman (Talk)  09:31, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome
I see you've done a bit of welcoming - feel free to add your name to Welcommittee. → CGorman (Talk)  17:55, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Terry Schiavo image
Hi,

I deleted Image:Terri Schiavo.jpg, as it lacked a proper fair use tag. I recognized it as an image that was frequently used on CNN; as such, it is almost certainly not legal for us to use it as fair use. As an admin, please help to speedy-delete locally uploaded images without the required fair use tags in accordance with our fair use policy. Thanks,--Eloquence 04:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Check this out please
check these out

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050618/ap_on_bi_ge/credit_cards_breach_26

versus

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050618/ap_on_bi_ge/credit_cards_breach

The top is the earlier story on yahoo news; the lower is the later one TO WHICH PEOPLE ARE REDIRECTED IF THEY CLICK ON EARLIER STORY LINKS, JUST AS WITH THE TOP SOURCE ON SATURDAY'S WIKI ARTCLE ABOUT THIS EVENT!

IMO we are witnissing a very primitive attempt at an important cover-up. The first AP story said that CardSystems' Friday statement was

"vetted by the FBI". "The company said it was told by the FBI not to release any information to the public; its statement Friday had been vetted by the agency."

The FBI vetted statement is the very statement that said the FBI told them not to advise the public about the cards being compromised.

Now unless we believe that Cardsystems is so stupid and reckless as to falsely accuse the FBI of putting customers' accounts at risk AND THEN to lie and say the FBI vetted the statement making that accusation; then this recent story is simply a lie and a cover-up..which I think it obviously is.

This link []shows that some of the links to the original AP story titled "40M Credit Card Accounts Could Be Affected" have been redirected to the later AP story titled "MasterCard: 68,000 Customers at High Risk". The later story reassures customers and has an FBI spokeswoman contradicting Friday's statement by cardsystems. The FBI spokes person even says the information should have been released;

The new version says;

"CardSystems' chief financial officer, Michael A. Brady, said Friday that his company was "blindsided" by the MasterCard release, adding that his company was told by the FBI not to release any information to the public.

Deb McCarley(FBI SPOKESPERSON) said MasterCard was obliged to its customers to release the information and was not told by the FBI to keep the security breach private.

McCarley said the FBI did ask CardSystems to not release details that might compromise the investigation - but she denied that the FBI had asked the company to not disclose that the intrusion occurred.

"I'm not sure where they got that impression," she said, adding that it was important for the public to be warned so card holders can be more careful while checking their statements."

The new version leaves out the reference to the Friday statement by CardSystems having been vetted by the FBI.

I think that the FBI actually broke some laws when they told CardSystems not to tell the public about the compromising of the cards; ESPECIALLY some European laws (lots of those cards are likely owned by Europeans) and now the FBI is shitting all over themselves trying to cover it up.

I think there is 1 hell of a story waiting here about this "cover up" and I think the people at Cardsystems might be willing to be interviwed about this. Paulrevere2005 05:02, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Great question;(answer in next sub-topic).

I think that the FBI broke laws related to aiding and abetting fraud by giving the thieves lots more time to steal people's money by causing a lengthy delay in when the public found out about the theft. As their spokesperson later said, its important for customers to know ASAP so they can keep an extra sharp eye on their statements. Another giant hole in the FBI cover-up is "why didn't they warn the public themselves???" since they know how important it is for an early customer warning.

This could be a HUGE story.

answer to your question
What I'd love to see is a live interview on your radio broadcast with CardSystems' chief financial officer, Michael A. Brady; where he would be asked exactly what the FBI said that caused the delay in releasing the information.

quote from 1st AP (Bruno) story;"CardSystems' chief financial officer, Michael A. Brady said Friday that his company was "blindsided" by the MasterCard release, adding that his company was told by the FBI not to release any information to the public."

I thought about trying a telephone interview but it would not have near the impact or credibility as a radio broadcast. Paulrevere2005 13:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ross Goings-on
Skype bugged out, then mother took her laptop back and I'm switching over to a 12" iBook that has neither colloquy nor skype loaded. stay tuned. --RossKoepke 18:50, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)