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The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter - Edition 2, August 5, 2013
There is less to report, as the group spent time focusing on behind-the-scenes aspects of obtaining thematic organization recognition.
 * The Wikinewsie Group News


 * Aff-Comm application status updates
 * The Wikinewsie Group answered several questions from the Affiliations Committee at Talk:The Wikinewsie Group/Bylaws.


 * Education and GLAM
 * Members are working to create educational materials to use at training workshops in English and Spanish.  Current print training materials include a one page guide to original sport reporting on English English Wikinews, a one page guide to conducting multilingual interviews, a guide to getting photo essays published and a guide to writing for English Wikinews.
 * The University of Wollongong class participation on English Wikinews wound up as the semester ended, and a new class has started with the new semester. The instructor has created a presentation about the class on Wikinews that can be found at StudentsInWikinews.
 * A member of The Wikinewsie Group met with a GLAM partner about the value of English Wikinews and Wikinoticias for freely sharing knowledge about culture.


 * Technical updates
 * Pi zero has moved to a new phase in the development of an improved reviewing tool for English Wikinews.
 * Gryllida is working on the development of a tool to make translating material from one project to another easier. The new beta wmtrans translation tool here, which you can use to translate Wikipedia and Wikinews articles from one language to another. Its difference from the Meta translation tools is include the the ability to translate an article as a whole, per-paragraph, and add new paragraphs if desired; a dictionary box for you to look up geographical names without loading entire Wikipedia pages; and whole-page translation philosophy instead of translating by parts. The tool also features a multilingual interface; you can add new sections to data.ini to add your own. You are encouraged to send them, and bug reports, to Gryllida.
 * Discussions have been going on behind the scenes about the potential for The Wikinewsie Group to support the technical aspects for Wikinews project development following suggestions on Wikimedia-l that this would be a place chapters could demonstrate leadership potential and work with the Foundation. There are currently a number of developers active in the Wikinews community.


 * Research
 * Given feedback by a member of the Wikimedia Foundation Board (Samuel Klien) that the English language project should consider content import from other free news sources as a way of increasing community participation, content output and traffic, research was done inside the community using another language project as a baseline to determine the potential impact in terms of achieving those goals. A copy of this research can be found at Research:Wikinews Content Import Analysis.  In a nutshell, the findings are: content import did not result in increased community output or increased community size.  Content import also resulted in fewer page views per published article.  Content import was not successful at achieving a positive community or traffic related impact.
 * A tiny piece of research done examining relative article popularity by year on English Wikinews can found at Article rank and article date. More in-depth research along these lines may produce interesting results.


 * Across the languages
 * Over on Italian Wikinews on July 25, they hit 30,000 total pages.
 * English Wikinews completed elections for their Arbitration Committee. Brian McNeil, Pi zero, Mikemoral, LauraHale, RockerballAustralia, and William S. Saturn were elected to the one year position.


 * Content work
 * Laura Hale wrote a report : A report on the coverage of Spanish athletes at the 2013 IPC Athletic World Championship. The chance to interview athletes came about because of successfully covering the IPC Alpine Skiing World Championship earlier in the year.
 * Brian McNeil &mdash; currently at the Edinburgh Fringe &mdash; is sharing a variety of video clips via English Wikinews' Facebook page. Copyright restrictions prevent most of these media files being uploaded to Commons; fair-use on Wikinews itself requires legal advice beforehand.
 * Clips:
 * Georgina Gordon at The Pear Tree
 * Georgina Gordon at The Pear Tree
 * Roy Henderson at The Pear Tree
 * Roy Henderson at The Pear Tree
 * Australian street artist, playing with fire, in Edinburgh's Grassmarket (Could go on Commons &mdash; if not for the fact that the 720p theora version of the clip exceeds the upload limit by 50%).


 * Other news
 * Two members of the The Wikinewsie Group provisional board attend the IRC meeting on July 26 for the Program Evaluation and Design as the board begins to think about and conducts its own evaluation of efforts to increase content and increase community participation. They observed the August 1 metrics meeting.


 * Why Wikinews? Editorials on why people support and contribute to Wikinews projects


 * Why I love English Wikinews by Laura Hale
 * Why I love English Wikinews by Hawkeye7
 * Why I love English Wikinews by Pi zero


 * Wikinews Original Reporting

The following is a list of all original reporting done on Wikinews projects from June 1, 2013 to July 31, 2013.


 * Ukrainian
 * ''See also: Авторський репортаж. The wiki uses nothing for the publish process.


 * Визначені лауреати Премії імені академіка Петра Тронька (created by Perohanych) 2013-07-10
 * ВздовжКарпатська експедиція 2013 (created by Antanana) 2013-07-09
 * У Києві вперше виступив Кронос-квартет (created by Fed4ev) 2013-07-06
 * Луганський обласний козачий кінний театр «Лугарі» показав звитягу на Дикому полі (created by Yakudza) 2013-07-05
 * На Луганщині пройшов козацький фестиваль «Звитяги Дикого поля» (created by Yakudza) 2013-06-30
 * Завершився 82-й чемпіонат України з шахів (created by Fed4ev) 2013-06-26
 * Завершується 82-й чемпіонат України з шахів (created by Fed4ev) 2013-06-25
 * Астрологічний прогноз: перехід Чорного Місяця в Знак Рака (created by Olena Zakharian) 2013-06-20
 * «Сокіл» Бортнянського в університеті Грінченка (created by Antanana) 2013-06-12
 * Документальний фільм «Відкритий доступ» вдруге було показано у Харкові (created by Kharkivian) 2013-06-12
 * Виставка митців Одеської школи розпочинається в Києві (created by Olena Zakharian) 2013-06-12
 * Нагороджено переможців конкурсу «Вікі любить Землю» (created by Olena Zakharian) 2013-06-10
 * Вікімедіа РУ: перший конкурс із призами (created by Antanana) 2013-06-05
 * Portuguese
 * ''See also: Reportagens originais, Publicado. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Começam os Jogos Mundiais em Cali, Colômbia (created by Sahaquiel9102) 2013-07-28
 * Spanish
 * ''See also: Wikinoticias:Reportajes originales sin notas, Artículos publicados. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Finaliza el segundo día de competencias de disco volador en los Juegos Mundiales de 2013 (created by Sahaquiel9102) 2013-07-30
 * Con un espectáculo de fuegos artificiales y baile se inauguran los Juegos Mundiales 2013 en Cali (created by Sahaquiel9102) 2013-07-26
 * La selección mexicana de jiu-jitsu se declara lista para los Juegos Mundiales de 2013 (created by PetrohsW) 2013-07-25
 * Inicia el Mundial de Taekwondo 2013 en Puebla, México (created by PetrohsW) 2013-07-25
 * El Festival de Cine Creative Commons Ciudad de México busca fondos para su segunda edición (created by PetrohsW) 2013-07-20
 * Un Boeing 777 de Asiana Airlines se estrella en el Aeropuerto Internacional de San Francisco (created by MadriCR) 2013-07-16
 * Una caída generalizada de Facebook afecta millones de personas (created by MadriCR) 2013-06-25
 * Una fiscalía de Costa Rica abre una investigación contra el ex presidente de Perú Alejandro Toledo (created by MadriCR) 2013-06-18
 * Una fiscalía costarricense congela una cuenta bancaria del expresidente peruano Alejandro Toledo (created by MadriCR) 2013-06-18
 * Russian
 * ''See also: Оригинальные репортажи, Опубликовано. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Скончался архитектор Иван Борисович Пуришев (created by PereslavlFoto) 2013-07-31
 * День рождения Андрея Сучилина в «Китайском лётчике Джао Да» (фоторепортаж) (created by Krassotkin) 2013-07-30
 * Дмитрий Зворыкин: «Мы можем себе очень сильно помочь, выбрав Навального в мэры» (created by Dmitry Rozhkov) 2013-07-30
 * Граждане России голосуют «За свободный интернет» (created by Krassotkin) 2013-07-29
 * Григорий Степанов: «Я созрел голосовать за Навального ещё год или два назад» (created by Dmitry Rozhkov) 2013-07-26
 * В русском Викигиде 2000 статей! (created by Brateevsky) 2013-07-26
 * Выставка «Гений да Винчи» (фоторепортаж) (created by Krassotkin) 2013-07-05
 * Канберра: день открытых дверей на плотине Коттер (created by Gryllida) 2013-06-26
 * Восстановлен Памятный крест на Александровой горе (created by PereslavlFoto) 2013-06-24
 * Переславский музей отменил дискриминацию иностранцев (created by Переславский музей-заповедник) 2013-06-23
 * Рок-фестиваль «Остров» 2013 завершился. Ждём «Остров» 2014 (created by Schekinov Alexey Victorovich) 2013-06-17
 * Башкирская Википедия посетила чемпионат мира по международным шашкам (created by Рөстәм Нурыев) 2013-06-17
 * Рок-остров на Северной Двине (created by Schekinov Alexey Victorovich) 2013-06-15
 * Ютуб-рекорды свердловского интернет-телевидения (created by Ssr) 2013-06-10
 * 250 тысяч за написание статей в Википедии: Галерея Славы Юга России и Востока Украины (created by Krassotkin) 2013-06-04
 * Состоялся первый конкурс «Краса Северодвинска» (created by Schekinov Alexey Victorovich) 2013-06-02
 * Слуги народа продолжают издеваться над хозяевами (created by Schekinov Alexey Victorovich) (Not yet published)
 * French
 * ''See also: Reportage original, Article publié. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Grasse : concert I Muvrini (created by Copyleft) 2013-07-29
 * Cyclisme : le trinidadien Emile Abraham remporte le Tour de Québec (created by Letartean) 2013-07-29
 * Première journée du Forum mondial de la langue française (created by Design2012) 2013-07-23
 * La Patrouille de France fête ses 60 ans d'existence au Bourget, en compagnie de l'Airbus A350 (created by Gfsas) 2013-06-21
 * France : 11e édition de Planete PME (created by Copyleft) 2013-06-19
 * Le cinquantième SIAE a ouvert ses portes au Bourget (created by Gfsas) 2013-06-18
 * France : 8ème Global Conference à l'Unesco (created by Copyleft) 2013-06-10
 * France : le CNRS organise une journée sur Wikipédia (created by Copyleft) 2013-06-07
 * Besançon : conférence sur le climat en présence de Claude Lorius (created by Juraastro) 2013-06-04
 * Québec : tout n'est pas que rose au Forum mondial de la langue française (created by Design2012) 2012-12-14
 * Italian
 * ''See also: Notizia originale, Pubblicati. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Viaggio umanitario del CIS in Senegal e Mali (created by 95.245.66.10) 2013-06-04
 * Milano: apre oggi il forum internazionale "Economia e società aperta" (created by Tooby) 2013-06-03
 * Chinese
 * ''See also: 原创报导, 已发布. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * 西安动漫游戏文化节 (created by Aoke1989) 2013-06-03
 * Esperanto
 * ''See also: Originalaj raportaĵoj, Publikigitaj artikoloj. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Finiĝas la dua tago de konkurado de Fluganta Telero ĉe la Mondaj Ludoj de 2013 (created by Sahaquiel9102) 2013-07-30
 * Komenciĝas la 9-aj Mondaj Ludoj en Kalio, Kolombio (created by Sahaquiel9102) 2013-07-26
 * Polish
 * ''See also: Materiały autorskie. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Protesty ws. uboju rytualnego (created by Plogi) 2013-07-11
 * Solidarna Polska o rządach komisarza w Oświęcimiu, który przegrał wybory (created by Plogi) 2013-07-11
 * Jose Barroso po spotkaniu z Donaldem Tuskiem (created by Plogi) 2013-07-11
 * PiS złoży projekt ustawy o ustanowieniu Krzyża Wschodniego (created by Plogi) 2013-07-11
 * Niemcy: Nowe władze Związku Polaków w Niemczech zarejestrowane (created by Macia11) 2013-07-02
 * Festiwal Ursynalia 2013 w Warszawie - fotoreportaż (created by Spens03) 2013-06-25
 * Ogólnopolski Festiwal Projektów 2013 (created by Azymut) 2013-06-23
 * Chór Les Petits Chanteurs de Passy w Polsce (created by Paterm) 2013-06-22
 * W Kielcach rozpoczęły się targi SACROEXPO 2013 (created by Gagorski) 2013-06-17
 * Noc Kupały 2013 w Polsce (created by Reguly) 2013-06-14
 * English
 * ''See also: Original reporting, Published. The wiki uses flagged revisions for the publish process.


 * Noosa get bonus point win against Nambour in round 18 of Sunshine Coast Rugby Union (created by RockerballAustralia) 2013-07-30
 * Ninth World Games open in Santiago de Cali, Colombia (created by User:) 2013-07-26
 * Wikinews interviews Australian Paralympic assistant coach David Gould (created by Hawkeye7) 2013-07-25
 * Nineteenth Maccabiah Games open in Jerusalem (created by Maor X) 2013-07-21
 * Noosa defeat Caloundra in Sunshine Coast Rugby Union round seventeen (created by RockerballAustralia) 2013-07-21
 * Wikinews interviews Spanish Paralympic track and field athlete David Casinos (created by LauraHale) 2013-07-19
 * Wikinews interviews Spanish Paralympic track and field athlete Elena Congost Mohedano (created by LauraHale) 2013-07-18
 * Wikinews interviews Spanish Paralympic track and field athlete Alberto Suárez Laso (created by LauraHale) 2013-07-17
 * House of Lords approve same-sex marriage bill at third reading (created by Tom Morris) 2013-07-16
 * Wikinews interviews Spanish Paralympic track and field athlete Gustavo Nieves Campello (created by LauraHale) 2013-07-16
 * Moldovan premier invites Romanian counterpart to pipeline start (created by Calusarul) 2013-07-12
 * Cricket: Northamptonshire defeat Warwickshire by 27 runs in Twenty20 match (created by Computron) 2013-07-08
 * San Fermín de los Navarros church in Madrid celebrates patron day (created by LauraHale) 2013-07-06
 * Wikinews interviews a Restore the Fourth organizer (created by KuduIO) 2013-07-03
 * Pride in London 2013: in pictures (created by Tom Morris) 2013-07-01
 * Canberrans flood Cotter Dam on open day (created by Hawkeye7) 2013-06-26
 * Toowoomba, Brisbane City take out Roller Derby wins on Australia's Sunshine Coast (created by RockerballAustralia) 2013-06-24
 * Questions raised over Mosquito device ahead of New South Wales trial (created by Gem224) 2013-06-23
 * Sunshine Coast Rugby Union, round twelve: Maroochydore defeat University at University (created by RockerballAustralia) 2013-06-17
 * Gubernatorial candidate Tom Tancredo comments on North Colorado proposal (created by William S. Saturn) 2013-06-15
 * Australian Paralympians cycling around Fiji for people with disabilities (created by Hawkeye7) 2013-06-12
 * Wikinews interviews biologist Chris Simon about periodical cicadas (created by Gryllida) 2013-06-12
 * Man dies in North Uist, Outer Hebrides after being hit by car (created by Rayboy8) 2013-06-10

RE Review
I apologize that I can't, and don't have the time I used to with contributions. So it was my pleasure. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:46, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Review tool issues
Hi Pi zero, I saw your comment at https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#HTTPS_for_users_with_an_account about the "review tool not creating the talk page" but could not find an Edit link there on the Water cooler page itself, hence commenting here. Are there steps to reproduce that I could follow, and what exactly is the "review tool" in this context? Thanks in advance, AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 21:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Pi, HELLO! Email me all about WikiNews!
Pi, email me all about WikiNews, I am a creative writer (fashion journalist) from India, previously Mumbai and now in Calcutta, covered/attended Wikimania HK and interviewed the sweet Sue and Jimmy. I am completely technologically challenged, as most of the top fashion editors of India are/choose to be. Do let me know how to contribute in creative (non-technical) way in WikiNews. Also, the fashion articles about India, wow! Look at them, I wish we could both work on it and make them readable for the fashion fraternity! I see your immense contribution in WikiNews, congratulations for the same. Cheers from India (a creative Hello) from Sou Boyy :)

Re: my privs reduced
Wasn't sure what you meant at my talk page when you said my privileges were reduced, I had self-revoked my administrator privileges and blocked all my bot accounts a few months before you posted that message.. just curious if you could give some specifics. (→ Zachary ) 07:17, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Is there an Wizard for Contributing Articles?
Pi, Great to hear from you. Is there an Wizard for Contributing Articles, I mean an easier process for non-technical creative people, especially little bit of Indian creative standards. Because the words used and the techniques are fit for IT guys from anywhere (especially very westernized, non Indian-friendly), and even a senior editor of the most-widely read English daily which is based in India, will find it difficult to publish an article here. And if you wish, do edit the stories published/written by me/us. I sincerely wish, that the Indian fashion fraternity, the likes of fashion editors, photographers, fashion bloggers, models, fashion designers, and the likes starts reading readable Indian fashion articles in wikipedia too. The Indian fashion articles need a lot of editing, especially because I guess the process to upload the articles are "too technical" for any conventional Indian writer/journalist. I am still giving my best to improve the quality of Indian fashion articles, since you are a veteran/expert, and technologically advanced, we should do it together. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sou Boyy (talk • contribs) 13:01, 25 August 2013‎


 * We've been working for several years now to create an interactive article wizard, but is requires us to develop a bunch of software, and we're not there yet.


 * There is a non-interactive "article wizard" we created a while back. You could take a look at that, and there are some other pages you could try.
 * WN:Article wizard
 * WN:Pillars of Wikinews writing
 * WN:Writing an article
 * WN:Article layout in a nutshell
 * There are some technical aspects to writing news, that probably can't be avoided (and Wikinewsies tend to be people who are okay with that); but we can try to help you. --Pi zero (talk) 13:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Pi, if you edit an article of a fashion writer, like a true Fashion Editor, there will be a lot more contribution, but if you delete and force an Indian writer to obey you and write in western way, you will have such fashion contents on indian fashion, which will be unreadable! And fashion writing is never news, fashion news are features write-ups, any journalist, fashion editor (not news/technical editor) or a fashion writer should know this, a fashion news does not follow inverted pyramid. You can read Vogue, Elle, Grazia, Cosmo and learn it for yourself. The need for the day, is simple way what wordpress or blogger uses for Indian writers on wikipedia, and then you should have more participation and more Indian fashion readers. Either, you can change the way and make it more user-friendly, or you will shun away many good writers who are Indian and not so comfortable/interested in becoming technologically advanced. And probably, you can speak to Indian Wikipedians and see for yourself that in a country, where electricity is not there in many parts, expecting "technical aspects" is too much. And "Wikinewsies tend to be people who are okay with that", I guess you mean people who are using computers for over 20 years in their nation. India is using computers for hardly past 5 years in houses, so you got to make it more Indian-user friendly for Indian Wiki writers and readers. Many Thanks.

Barnstar for Pi!
Pi, I wish to award you with a You deserve it for your contributions.

My very best, Sourendra.Das@gmail.com

—The preceding was added by Sou Boyy (talk • contribs) 13:08, 25 August 2013‎

Please do not bite the newcomers says Jimbo Wales. Wikipedia and WikiNews Needs to Expand. Thanks :)
Wikipedia articles are improved through the hard work of regular editors, but also through numerous contributions made by newcomers. Remember: all of us were new editors at Wikipedia once, and in some ways (such as when editing an article on a topic outside our usual scope) even the most experienced among us are still newcomers.

New members are prospective contributors and are therefore Wikipedia's most valuable resource. We must treat newcomers with kindness and patience—nothing scares potentially valuable contributors away faster than hostility. It is very unlikely for a newcomer to be completely familiar with all of the policies, guidelines, and community standards of Wikipedia when they start editing. Even the most experienced editors may need a gentle reminder from time to time. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sou Boyy (talk • contribs) 17:50, 25 August 2013

A Good Editor edits and publishes not put tags! Thanks.
Dear Pi (may I call you that?), A Good Editor should edit and publish and not just put tags. If you ever work in a newspaper, any Editor who sends back a copy to the writer will be considered a horrible/terrible editor. Next time, do remove water-mark or any other changes yourself. All my edits, I have taken responsibility in making changes, never put tags in other people's write-ups. And for a professional journalist, it takes a lot of time to do Wiki writing. Appreciate that. I congratulate that you have done lots of work in Wiki, all I wish is that "DO EDIT", simply do not put tags and vanish. Let's work it out together and improve the quality of the Indian fashion articles in Wiki, make them more readable. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sou Boyy (talk • contribs) 17:51, 25 August 2013


 * We are different from a traditional newspaper, necessarily because we are a wiki. We are different from a Wikipedia-style wiki, necessarily because we are a news site.


 * Our review process is not like editing at a traditional newspaper. No-one here is allowed to self-publish; in order to publish an article, the reviewer must remain independent of the article, which basically means they mustn't have made such extensive changes that they become a coauthor.  Occasionally a reviewer chooses to make big improvements to an article even though it disqualifies them from review; but this can only produce a published article if some other reviewer then comes along and puts in the effort to review the resulting article, which can be problematic if (as is often the case) we have a very limited pool of available reviewers at the time.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:10, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Debian 7.0
I missed to reply and thank you for your work in the review of my article. I think that the best tip you said is to put little html comments in the source indicating which source each bit of information came from. May be I saw one or two articles that uses this technique, but without understanding the motivation. Be sure that the next time I will write an article sources comments will be included. Thank you again! Ciao --Trek00 (talk) 20:59, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you found it helpful. We try our best to provide useful feedback.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Gingsburg becomes first United States Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex marriage
One to many letters in this headline. Lol. Maybe trying to balance out Uni defeat Nambor as 2013 Sunshine Coast Rugby Union season ends? --RockerballAustralia c 07:15, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Hardware troubles
My wiki presence is likely to be intermittent for a few days. --Pi zero (talk) 06:25, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If I can, I will try and - at least - do some copyedit on submissions. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on extension installation request
Could you please comment on Water_cooler/proposals? It is a request to install an extension on Wikinews to ease some of our processes around working with university courses. --LauraHale (talk) 03:52, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Something came to mind
re: article assistant tools. I always seem to be reaching for new ways to format my articles. I seem to end up with 1 photo at top left and then my little 3 paragraphs. I like the fact that we've seen more photo essays here (and other variants). You know how there's that little widget for reviewers, whenever we ready an article??? .......to set the number of sentences in the teaser that appears on Mains...? I like that. I wish we had a button (buttons?) that would show various templates for how our finished article might be formatted. That would be super cool! --Bddpaux (talk) 18:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting thought. I'll try to keep that in mind, when attempting to assemble an interactive article wizard.  --Pi zero (talk) 04:21, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Table
With the above comment in mind, I did the table as an attempt to "spice up" my usual predictable format. I did, however, feel like I was stretching credulity just bit, though....seeing as how I only listed about 4% of all the attractions in Texas for this year! I wonder, though: how might such a table be kosher for an article (any old article, really......just wondering). --Bddpaux (talk) 14:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Vaterite
Today's word is,... Vaterite.

If you could possibly scan the vaterite article for understandability with a possible publish tomorrow that'd be appreciated. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:34, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * On first reading it seemed pretty much okay, though I'd a feeling there might have been some subtle point that sat oddly. I'll read it again in a while.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 10:35, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Inter-wiki linking
don't use w: for wikilinks, use w instead ; + wikilinks I was having trouble with this. Sometimes it was linking to Wikipedia, and sometimes to Wikinews. I had a particular problem with the link to the, which was linking to a non-existent Wikinews page instead of going to Wikipedia, although it seems okay now.


 * Taking a wild guess, based partly on the sorts of mistakes I make with w myself, maybe you used square brackets instead of curly braces? w|Australia would produce w|Australia, a link to non-existent Wikinews page w.  Template w wouldn't produce a link to a non-existent local page; it explicitly checks for a local target, and if the local target doesn't exist it links to Wikipedia (or wherever) instead.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Username change request
Hi, I just posted a username change request here and wanted to notify you. Thanks!
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 16:06, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much
Thank you for your Support of Wikinews interviews New York bar owner on Santorum cocktail for WN:FA, much appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 14:19, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

The Wikinewsie Group News : Edition 4, October 1, 2013

 * The Wikinewsie Group News : Edition 4, October 1, 2013


 * Aff-Comm
 * The Bylaws review by aff-comm started in early September.


 * Wikimedia Foundation
 * There has been some talk about reviving the Sister Projects Committee. Wikinewsies are encouraged to become involved.


 * Research
 * Wikinews original reporting value as a measure of news events was published. This is the first in a series of research pieces looking at the cost of original reporting done by Wikinews journalists.
 * The second piece of research about Wikinews reporting was published, Itemizing the cost of Wikinews reporting. It was not published on the research namespace on meta because it has little application for chapters and thematic organizations as a whole, except possibly in trying to determine how to evaluate budgets submitted by Wikinews reporters for the purposes of grant making.


 * Education
 * On English Wikinews, supporters of The Wikinewsie Group requested the installation of the Education Program extension. This will facilitate having university courses participate on the project and make it easier for TWG to work with other groups like the Wiki Education Foundation.  The extension was installed and as an example and way to engage new contributors,a course for new reporters was created.  Feedback on the course or anyone interested in running a high school or university course on Wikinews is encouraged to get in touch with The Wikinewsie Group.


 * Original reporting
 * Media accreditation has been attained for the 2014 Winter Paralympics. Planning is underway to insure the success of the original reporting event and build on the success of the 2012 Summer Paralympics.  Success at the 2014 Winter Paralympics will go a long way towards helping The Wikinewsie Group secure accreditation for the 2016 Summer Olympics.  If any individuals, chapters or thematic organizations are interested in assisting us with this and integrating it into existing outreach efforts to people with disabilities, please get in touch Laura Hale.


 * Outreach
 * A discussion took place on IRC about how Wikinews's definitions of journalism are very much tied into the workflow for Wikinews. Thus, for many Wikinewsies, it is difficult to discuss the concept of what journalism is in a project context without it being seen as a fundamental discussion on project workflow.  When people come in from the outside and offer advice, they are often seen as fundamentally criticizing the project's workflow without having any conceptualization they are doing that while fundamentally acting in good faith.  In working with outsiders who are offering assistance, there needs to be a better method of articulating that the two, definition or journalism and Wikinews workflow, are one and the same.  This could theoretically assist in less hostility, and enabling greater shared understanding that will allow participants to talk with each other instead of past each other.
 * Wikimetrics may be useful for assisting people in measuring education program impact, GLAM related programming and other outreach endeavors. For projects with flagged revisions or where articles are deleted/userified if they do not get published, the only really useable current available metric is pages created.  Any analysis using this tool should wait until all content has been delete/userified because of too many false positives that suggest content was published when it was not. Additional information can be found at Programs:Resources.
 * Several language Wikinews projects which tweet out links other than to their news archives have started tagging their articles with the local language word for Wikinews. This makes it easier to find their reporting content, and for others to retweet their content. The Wikinewsie Group Twitter account made this request to better promote the work being done by local projects.


 * Technical
 * Wikinewsie.org e-mail is being cleaned up. All e-mail boxes which are 100% full have been deleted. Users who have set their accounts to forward to "untrustworthy" sites have been cautioned against doing so or those rules have been modified and reset with random values by the server administrator for them.  People are reminded they should not be forwarding their e-mails to Google or Yahoo accounts.  A strong possibility exists that this implementation may have been overly zealous so if a user is experiencing difficulties, please get in touch.
 * Three potential technical projects for Wikinews were listed on the possible projects for mentorship programs on Mediawiki. They include a request for a mobile reporting tool, a mobile Wikinews application, and a machine assisted translation tool.
 * Server upgrades and fixes continue for the Wikinewsie server. Details available here.
 * The wmtran tool has a new interface translation, to German, thanks to Huon.


 * For reporters
 * Reporters are encouraged to get an orcid, which can be displayed on their userpage. (Example)  This could be useful in improving chances of getting grants, getting recognition for your reporting and promoting your work.
 * The Wikinewsie Group is looking for New York City based Wikimedia contributors who would be interested in getting published on Wikinews with the goal of getting media accreditation to the United Nations. Please get in touch with Laura Hale or pi zero if you would like more information.

Original report All original reporting done across Wikinews between September 1 and October 1, 2013. If this list is incomplete, please report that to Gryllida. Thank you to all Wikinews reporters and translators who have done original reporting. Please continue your good work.


 * Ukrainian
 * ''See also: Авторський репортаж. The wiki uses nothing for the publish process.


 * Український Тиждень Мистецтв сезону «Осінь 2013» (created by Antanana) 2013-09-08
 * Конкурс Вікімедіа виявляє нові пам'ятки вірменської культури (created by Olena Zakharian) 2013-09-08
 * Гравці «Артур М'юзік» — чемпіони України з пляжного футболу (created by Fed4ev) 2013-09-01
 * Spanish
 * ''See also: Wikinoticias:Reportajes originales sin notas, Artículos publicados. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Las tres ciudades candidatas a los Juegos Olímpicos de 2020 realizan su presentación al COI (created by Edslov) 2013-09-20
 * Tokio gana la sede de los Juegos Olímpicos 2020 (created by MadriCR) 2013-09-20
 * Andrés Manuel López Obrador llama a una movilización contra la reforma energética (created by ProtoplasmaKid) 2013-09-20
 * Russian
 * ''See also: Оригинальные репортажи, Опубликовано. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Интервью о поддержке Асада Китаем, Ираном и Россией (created by Kalan) 2013-09-29
 * В польской Википедии миллион статей (created by Brateevsky) 2013-09-25
 * Круглый стол по итогам выборов прошёл в Переславле (created by Виталий Пашков) 2013-09-23
 * Сергей Митрохин: «Википедия — прекрасный ресурс» (created by Dmitry Rozhkov) 2013-09-06
 * French
 * ''See also: Reportage original, Article publié. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Médecine naturelle : interview du Docteur Jean-Pierre Willem (created by Copyleft) 2013-09-23
 * Belgique : avant-projet de loi sur l'agrémentation des entreprises de sécurité (created by Dereckson) 2013-09-16
 * Beynost : la maison Delorme ouverte au public pour la première fois (created by Agamitsudo) 2013-09-15
 * Serbian
 * ''See also: Изворни извештај, Објављено. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Канадска позоришна турнеја две Љиљане (created by Laslovarga) 2013-09-22
 * Слободне жене балканске (created by Laslovarga) 2013-09-08
 * Chinese
 * ''See also: 原创报导, 已发布. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * 八月份中文维基百科浏览量增三分之一，历史性突破5亿 (created by Aoke1989) 2013-09-09
 * Polish
 * ''See also: Materiały autorskie. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Wystawa fotografii Wiki Lubi Zabytki we Wrześni (created by Azymut) 2013-09-26
 * XVII Warszawski Festiwal Nauki: dzień drugi (created by Marek Mazurkiewicz) 2013-09-21
 * Warszawskie Otwarte Wikispotkania (created by CLI) 2013-09-19
 * Dożynki 2013 w Polsce (created by Reguly) 2013-09-17
 * Gamescom 2013: Fotoreportaż (created by Holek) 2013-09-08
 * English
 * ''See also: Original reporting, Published. The wiki uses flagged revisions for the publish process.


 * Diego Costa scores Atlético Madrid's winning goal against Real Madrid (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-29
 * Atlético de Madrid defeats Real Madrid 1-0 in 2013 derby (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-29
 * Finnish female politicians highlighted by World Bank's 2012 gender report (created by Blood Red Sandman) 2013-09-29
 * Fiji makes progress on gender roles according to 2012 Report on Gender Equality and Development (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-27
 * 2012 Report on Gender Equality and Development says US women have room for progress (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-27
 * 2012 Report on Gender Equality and Development credits Icelandic parental policy with 'hopeful' changes (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-26
 * For Jamaica, 2012 Report on Gender Equality and Development focuses on men (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-26
 * 2012 Report on Gender Equality and Development suggests Australian women are doing okay (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-26
 * 2012 Report on Gender Equality and Development looks at women's issues in India (created by LauraHale) 2013-09-25
 * 98th annual East Texas State Fair opens in Tyler, Texas (created by Bddpaux) 2013-09-23
 * Wikinews interviews specialists on China, Iran, Russia support for al-Assad (created by Computron) 2013-09-23
 * United States wins Wheelchair Rugby Tri-Nations Series in Sydney (created by Hawkeye7) 2013-09-20
 * Wheelchair Rugby Tri-Nations Series begins in Sydney (created by Hawkeye7) 2013-09-20
 * Australian solar racing team parades at Sydney campus send-off (created by Wikiwide) 2013-09-20
 * Wikinews interviews Dr. Michael Mazilu on creating world's fastest spinning manmade object (created by Blood Red Sandman) 2013-09-13
 * Haunted attractions in Texas prepare for 2013 Halloween season (created by Bddpaux) 2013-09-12
 * Western Stars win Women's National Wheelchair Basketball League championship in a thriller (created by Hawkeye7) 2013-09-10
 * Wikinews interviews Scott Lucas, Eyal Zisser, Majid Rafizadeh about risks of US military intervention in Syria (created by Computron) 2013-09-08
 * Wikinews interviews Dr. Robert Kelly and Dr. Jim Gill regarding joint scientific venture in North Korea (created by Computron) 2013-09-08
 * Coastal Assassins get wins at roller derby event on Australia's Sunshine Coast (created by RockerballAustralia) 2013-09-08
 * Dungog, Australia residents celebrate continued protection of local forest (created by 124.184.87.219) 2013-09-05
 * Wikinews interviews Dr Thomas Scotto and Dr Steve Hewitt about potential US military intervention in Syria (created by Computron) 2013-09-04

Portal:East Timor
That's one of those puzzlers &mdash; namely, this being a 'transcontinental country'. It may-well be the case that (back in the dim and distant past) we had these 'edge cases' (pun intended) listed under two continents. It's hardly a critical point to address; but, what are your thoughts on handling the few countries that do span more than one continent? --Brian McNeil / talk 11:12, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I always figured if a country spans more than one continent, it should belong to both (well, all if there were a three-continent case). The two currently implemented cases I know of are Turkey in both Europe and Asia, and Egypt in both Africa and the Middle East.  I'm aware that some people would put both of those in the Middle East, and in fact the map we use for the Middle East does so (an annoyance; we should have a map that accurately shows what we do).  Other cases:
 * Afghanistan articles were, when I first checked, pretty much uniformly randomly distributed into Asia, or Middle East, or both. I attribute this largely to Amerikans who don't know geography (except perhaps that Mexico and Canada are on the border of the US, which does suggest a neat solution to the problem of Mexican immigrants:  just let them go directly from Mexico to Canada without passing through the US).  Anyway, I've been slowly migrating those articles out of Middle East (unless they also involve a Middle Eastern country) and into Asia.
 * Russia really needs to be added to Asia; it's now only in Europe, which is right iirc for Russia proper but not for the Russian Federation, which is what our category covers. I haven't done it yet because it's such a dauntingly large task.
 * East Timor is near Oceania. I suspect it does belong in Asia.  But Oceania, like the Middle East, seems a touch subjective.  Indonesia is in Asia, Papua New Guinea is in Oceania.  A bunch of ASEAN countries are in Oceania.  I see no particular harm in leaving East Timor out of the Oceania category but listing the Oceania countries on its portal.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 11:57, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, and there's Azerbaijan. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 17:41, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your formatting help with Category:Werner Erhard, much appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Just curious......
does this person still have Admin privs?? --Bddpaux (talk) 19:19, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, yes, though I think it's only because we haven't gotten around to applying WN:PeP. --Pi zero (talk) 19:41, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

New nick
Hi! Here is my new nick for the English wikinews channel. (Former FiloActual). We are in touch. --EdgeWater (talk) 09:20, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Changing username
Hello, Pi zero, I just filed a username requestion (Changing_username) and it looks like you are the Bureaucrat who most often replies to these kinds of requests so I just thought I'd post you a note. Thanks for any help you can offer! Newjerseyliz (talk) 13:17, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, Pi zero, do you have a moment to look at my username request? Thanks! Newjerseyliz (talk) 21:40, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I hope I'll be able to take a look later tonight. --Pi zero (talk) 23:39, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 06:33, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

The Wikinewsie Group News - Edition 5, November 8, 2013

 * The Wikinewsie Group News : Edition 5, November 8, 2013


 * Project news
 * The Wikinewsie Group/Local Wikinews policies is the start of a guide that explains local Wikinews project policies with the goal of making it easier to recognise credentials across project, build on accumulated reputation from one project to another and facilitate translation work.
 * Historical Czech Wikinews experiment is a blog entry by Okino that looks at the community impact of allowing writers to write Wikinews articles from a past perspective, IE writing a story about a historical battle as if you were a journalist writing that article the day after it happened. The purpose was to attempt to make Wikinews more collaborative in nature and avoid the time constraints of the immediacy of news reporting. Okino shows that while the reaction to the idea was positive, the true interest in writing the articles of this type was small as the vast majority of them were written by him.
 * A conversation is taking place on Wikinoticias about allowing CC-BY-NC images to be locally uploaded.
 * A conversation is taking place on English Wikinews with a WMF staff member about the future of search and potential special search features for Wikinews projects.


 * Training materials
 * A one page guide and a screencast were created that explain how to avoid plagiarism on Wikinews. Available data suggests this is somewhat of an issue for new and student reporters on English Wikinews, with roughly 10 to 20% of all submitted articles having some sort of copyright issue.
 * Training materials were created to better support new reporters wanting to produce photo essays. They can be found at Photo Essays for Wikinews, Photojournalist worksheet, and Wikinews Photo Essay Formatting.  Assistance is requested in translating these to other languages and localizing them to local project requirements.  This would be very helpful ahead of the Sochi Paralympic Games, where there are expected to be a number of photo essays produced.
 * Given the difficulty of new reporters being unable to get their first article published on Wikinews, a video was created to encourage these writers to stick with it. It can be found at The first time writing for Wikinews good.ogv. It is somewhat tongue in cheek, and tries to address the emotional implications of a not ready review.  The problem of getting new reporters who are unsuccessful at getting their article published has been identified as a major area for work.  It has a large impact on reporter retention.


 * Of interest for journalists
 * Copyright's Role in a Free Press is an article by Terry Hart of the copyright alliance on the issue of funding important investigative journalism.


 * Education
 * Provisional Chairperson LauraHale is made a presentation at the EduWiki Conference 2013 in Cardiff, Wales about educational efforts on English Wikinews. Findings she included that changes in reviewing practices between semester 1 and semester 2 for one university course saw similar improvements for new reporters.  What is good for students is good for the whole community.
 * With the Education Extension installed successfully on English Wikinews, a portal was started at WN:EDU to encourage and provide training for educators to use Wikinews in their coursework. This is something The Wikinewsie Group is hoping to expand upon in the future, and plans to try to get translated into other languages. Plans are also underway to create a student portal to provide training for students.  Many things to Sage Ross for his assistance in setting up the educator portal.


 * GLAM
 * The major GLAM work being done by a Wikinewsie at the moment is a Wikimedian in Residency with the Comité Paralímpico Español. A report was created this month for CPE based on interviews done in August. It can be found here.
 * Paralympic work being done with the US Olympic Committee is progressing.

Between May 1 and October 31, when The Wikinewsie Group Newsletter first began tracking original reporting taking place across all projects, 227 stories have been published by 78 reporters 14 different language Wikinews projects. The projects with the greatest number of reporters engaged in original reporting were English with 15, Russian with 14, Polish with 13 and French with 10. Beyond these, original there were one or more journalists engaging in original reporting on Catalan, Chinese, Esperanto, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Serbian, Spanish and Ukrainian. The peak month for reporting across all projects was May with 52 articles. It was followed by June with 49, August with 44, September with 43 and July with 39.
 * Original reporting - summary



In the past four months, Spanish, Polish, French, Ukrainian, Russian and English have all produced over 20 total pieces of original reporting, with Russian Wikinews publishing 41 stories and English Wikinews publishing 60 stories.

LauraHale, RockerballAustralia, Antanana, Agamitsudo, Dmitry Rozhkov, Plogi, Krassotkin, Schekinov Alexey Victorovich,  and MadriCR have each produced 5 or more pieces of original reporting in the past four months. Another group of users, Joan301009, Bddpaux, Computron, Laslovarga, Fed4ev and Yakudza, have produced four articles each.

For September, only three pieces of 43 original reports produced were translated from one language to another. They were Wikinews interviews specialists on China, Iran, Russia support for al-Assad, Wikinews interviews Dr Thomas Scotto and Dr Steve Hewitt about potential US military intervention in Syria, Atlético de Madrid defeats Real Madrid 1-0 in 2013 derby and Tokio gana la sede de los Juegos Olímpicos 2020. Original reporting is a major strength of Wikinews. It is one we should be playing to. The Wikinewsie Group would like to encourage everyone to assist translating Wikinews work into another language, or finding a local reporter to assist with translating a work from where it was originally published into that language. This will benefit all languages, promote more cooperation between projects, and expand news reach for our reporting which we can leverage to provide more opportunities for reporters.


 * Original reporting output
 * Ukrainian
 * ''See also: Авторський репортаж. The wiki uses nothing for the publish process.


 * Легенди «Титаніка» в Україні (created by OlgaKolomoets) 2013-10-21
 * «Сокіл» Бортнянського в Дитячій академії мистецтв (created by A1) 2013-10-15
 * Spanish
 * ''See also: Wikinoticias:Reportajes originales sin notas, Artículos publicados. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Deportivo Cali venció a La Equidad y se clasificó anticipadamente a los cuadrangulares finales (created by Remux) 2013-10-27
 * Presidenta de Costa Rica queda "atrapada" en aeropuerto panameño por falla de Copa Airlines (created by MadriCR) 2013-10-20
 * Senado de Estados Unidos aprueba proyecto para reabrir el gobierno federal y elevar techo de la deuda (created by MadriCR) 2013-10-17
 * Terremoto de 7,1 grados sacude Filipinas y deja cuantiosos daños materiales (created by MadriCR) 2013-10-15
 * Hackean el sitio de Google Costa Rica (created by MadriCR) 2013-10-14
 * Un inusual sismo de 4,5 se registra en la costa este de Estados Unidos (created by MadriCR) 2013-10-08
 * Candidato presidencial de Costa Rica regresa a la campaña política dos días después de haber presentado su renuncia (created by MadriCR) 2013-10-05
 * Russian
 * ''See also: Оригинальные репортажи, Опубликовано. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Судьбу Ярославского музея-заповедника обсудили на Круглом столе (created by PereslavlFoto) 2013-10-28
 * В проектах Викимедиа новый механизм уведомлений (created by Arbnos) 2013-10-23
 * Сборная Боснии и Герцеговины впервые в истории вышла в финальную часть чемпионатов мира по футболу (created by Brateevsky) 2013-10-17
 * French
 * ''See also: Reportage original, Article publié. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Arménie : la seconde wikiconférence organisée à Erevan se termine aujourd'hui (created by Agamitsudo) 2013-10-06
 * Championnat de France de rugby 2008-2009 : les résultats de la première journée (created by Grondin) 2012-12-14
 * Championnat de France de rugby 2008-2009 : Perpignan remporte le bouclier de Brennus (created by Grondin) 2012-12-14
 * Championnat de France de rugby 2007-2008 : Toulouse remporte son dix-septième titre (created by Grondin) 2012-12-14
 * Serbian
 * ''See also: Изворни извештај, Објављено. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Позив за нове доприносиоце на техничким пројектима Викимедије (created by Laslovarga) 2013-10-24
 * ВикиПутовање има нови лого (created by Laslovarga) 2013-10-20
 * Википедијин Едукативни програм се шири арапским светом (created by Laslovarga) 2013-10-20
 * Chinese
 * ''See also: 原创报导, 已发布. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * 维基媒体项目用户个人信息可能泄漏 (created by Aoke1989) 2013-10-05
 * Polish
 * ''See also: Materiały autorskie. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Otwarcie Nowych Ogrodów w Dobrzycy koło Koszalina - 27 września 2013 roku (created by Hortulus) 2013-10-29
 * Prelekcja w Związku Esperantystów na temat Światowego Kongresu Esperanto w Reykjavíku (created by Marek Mazurkiewicz) 2013-10-16
 * Prelekcja w Związku Esperantystów na temat Izraela (created by Marek Mazurkiewicz) 2013-10-08
 * Międzynarodowe Targi Kolejowe TRAKO 2013 w Gdańsku (created by Travelarz) 2013-10-01
 * English
 * ''See also: Original reporting, Published. The wiki uses flagged revisions for the publish process.


 * Slow start to winter 2013/2014 flu season in USA (created by LauraHale) 2013-10-27
 * Controversy brews surrounding small Texas church (created by Bddpaux) 2013-10-21
 * Wikinews interviews Robert Sarvis, Libertarian Party nominee for Governor of Virginia (created by William S. Saturn) 2013-10-19
 * Wikinews interviews meteorological experts on Cyclone Phalin (created by Computron) 2013-10-14
 * 2013 Autumn Old and Antique Bookfair continues in Madrid (created by LauraHale) 2013-10-11
 * Australia has mixed OECD rankings for literacy and numeracy amongst adults (created by LauraHale) 2013-10-11
 * Spain sits near the bottom of OECD rankings on adult literacy and numeracy (created by LauraHale) 2013-10-10
 * Japanese adults rank high in literacy and numeracy in OECD survey (created by LauraHale) 2013-10-09
 * Wikinews interviews President of the International Brotherhood of Magicians (created by Bddpaux) 2013-10-09
 * CFPB records fewer complaints in early days of US government shutdown (created by LauraHale) 2013-10-08
 * Wikinews interviews specialists on South Korea military parade (created by Computron) 2013-10-06
 * Port Kembla, New South Wales residents keep faith in their region (created by Lbuow) (Not yet published)
 * Lousiana State University's coach Les Miles laments his team's recent loss to Ole Miss (created by Bddpaux) (Not yet published)
 * German
 * ''See also: Wikinews:Originalbericht, Veröffentlicht. The wiki uses a category for the publish process.


 * Münchner Trachtenlauf 2013 (created by Usien) 2013-10-13
 * Oliver Sebrantke zum dritten Mal Sieger beim Marathon in Bremen (created by House1630) 2013-10-07
 * Heidi K. zu fünfeinhalb Jahren verurteilt – Innenansichten einer Gerichtsverhandlung (created by Itu) 2013-10-05
 * Der Winter kommt: Deutschlands Städte bieten mehr Hilfe für Obdachlose (created by House1630) 2013-10-02

Doppleganger
Technically, Bddmagic shouldn't even exist here. That's actually my WP handle and sometimes, while jumping back and forth I'll forget to sign out/in. I like having different handles on different projects, but that gets (case in point) a little weird sometimes. --Bddpaux (talk) 16:56, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The alternative accounts really ought to be tagged as doppelgangers, though, if they do sometimes accidentally get used. As a matter of documentation.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Strange deletion
As far as I see, this user is a constructive editor from the German language Wikipedia and the linked webpage is not really advertising. It just contains some additional information about the contributor himself. Thanks for reconsideration, Vogone (talk) 15:42, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Are they on German Wikipedia? I couldn't readily tell, since the tool is packing up.  (I always did feel it was a bad idea to depend on an external toolserver to make up for inadequacies in the design of the wiki software; that's also one of the two mainreasons I dislike bots... but I digress.)


 * We generally have very low tolerance on en.wn for external links on user pages, with some leeway granted if someone has actually become an active contributor here. For someone who's active on another sister, I really should leave a note on their user talk page, though.  &lt;goes to do that&gt;  --Pi zero (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Vogone (talk) 16:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

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Tutoring??
Well, I wonder where/how I can learn what the scope of the Admin. bit covers?--Bddpaux (talk) 20:06, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Most of it is additional controls that appear because you have the privs. When you look at a page history, or at Special:RecentChanges, each user listing has, in addition to user page, talk page, and contributions, also a link for blocking them.  When you rename a page, there's a box you can check to not leave a redirect.  When viewing any page there are additional controls (either on a drop-down menu, or as separate tabs, depending on which skin you use) for changing the page protection and for deleting the page.  And so on.


 * In other words, there are more buttons for you to be careful not to accidently click! --Pi zero (talk) 21:03, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmmmmm......
Well, I tried to delete this (as deletion is well past due)Obama may have been informed of Angela Merkel phone tapping.....but I think I did it wrong.....hmmmmmmmm. --Bddpaux (talk) 19:49, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, looks like something went awry. RecentChanges says the visibility of a revision was changed.
 * What skin are you using? Vector?  --Pi zero (talk) 19:52, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I think so. My "Tools" list has certainly gotten longer. Let's change angles here......when you go to an article, and you intend to delete it. Where do you go/what do you see first? --Bddpaux (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, that's why I asked about skins. The default skin is Vector, and if you don't know you're using a different skin, you're presumably using Vector.  The thing is, I prefer Monobook, which was the default skin when I first registered a wikimedia account (something like seven years ago).  So ordinarily, when I look at an article, the tabs I see across the top of the page are article, collaboration, opinions, edit this page, history, delete, rename, change protection, watch, and (if the article has been submitted) review.  But if I switch to Vector (using Special:Preferences &mdash; it's under Appearance), I see instead two sets of tabs:  on the left, Article, Collaboration, and Opinions, and on the right, Read, Edit, View history, a star (for watching the page), and a down-arrow for a drop-down menu of additional options.  The options on the drop-down menu (since I'm an admin and reviewer) are Delete, Rename, Protect, and (if submitted) Review.


 * To delete the page, select the Delete option from that drop-down menu.


 * There are controls on the history page to change visibility of particular revisions. --Pi zero (talk) 23:22, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, see......there you go....Monobook makes things nice and tidy, doesn't it?? That was just the ticket! --Bddpaux (talk) 03:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Varanasi Heritage litigation extending in the court of public debate
H Pi Zero I followed your suggestions in Review of revision 2159786 [Not ready] Since 2 days now I the article has been submitted for t\review. Can you please look at it? Thanks --Rahulkepapa (talk) 06:05, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Rahulkepapa: I noticed you'd resubmitted.  In the past couple of days I wasn't able to do as much reviewing as I'd hoped, and then there were some other articles competing for reviewer time.  I hope to get to your article in the next few hours (it's morning where I am).  --Pi zero (talk) 13:26, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Well......
utilizing my shiny new mop, I did this. Did I do it right?? --Bddpaux (talk) 00:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Somehow you didn't move the talk page along with the article (I reunited them). On the renaming page, apparently you did check the box to not leave a redirect, but somehow the box to move the talk page must have gotten unchecked in the process.  --Pi zero (talk) 04:07, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Pi zero
I'm having a hard time finding a place to respond to other users that have commented on the article that I have tried to write. One was from a Russian article that was translated into English and it looked pretty bad. That was the one from the Siberian Times. People Magazine will have an article of Sofia tomorrow (Monday). If I'm not successful with this article I may have to pass it on to someone else that will like to do it. I'm not a writer, nor am I good at it. I can only fix the grammar of bad English that has been translated from other languages. So if I continue with this I will need a lot of help with this project.

About me and how I know Sofia, I met her off of Facebook and there are a number of groups mostly Moms trying to find whys to bring her back to where she belongs. Her Russian is not to good since she has been there for only 2 1/2 years. The only way for an anglophone to be able to learn Russian is to take a 5 year extensive course in Russian to speak the language fluently. This is not what Sofia is able to do. So the only option left is to come back home or secondly is to apply for a visa to live in an English speaking country.

I'm trying to get the article started for her, it's very rough, and I don't know how to smooth it out.

Thank you for your time, Lauire

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Laurie1956 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 25 November 2013

Sorry
I didn't mean to put a publish tag in the Bangkok article. I seem to have swept it up when I copied the categories from another article. Sorry. :( Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:36, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah. On the one hand, these things happen.  On the other, this particular sort of goof is especially to be avoided.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:17, 29 November 2013 (UTC)