User talk:Rahulkepapa

-- Wikinews Welcome (talk) 10:41, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Is Varanasi becoming a city where dialogue is formally prosecuted?‎
Hi. You appear to be doing a lot of work on Is Varanasi becoming a city where dialogue is formally prosecuted?‎. The article has no sources for people to verify all the information. Unless this is done, the article will never be ready to publish because none of it can be verified. Can you please address this issue sooner rather than later? Otherwise, you may lose a lot of hard work. :( --LauraHale (talk) 13:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia content is not available under a license that is compatible with the license used on Wikinews; you have, verbatim, lifted large tracts from Wikipedia; and &mdash; looking at articles you have started there, which were threatened with speedy deletion for copyright violation of works from elsewhere &mdash; failed to properly grasp the requirements in avoiding accusation of plagiarism or copyright violation.
 * That, without even bringing up the issue of a complete lack of sources, is sufficient to discourage anyone from seriously reviewing your work with a view to publication. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:17, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


 * To be clear, it appears there are source templates scattered through the article text. Those need to be listed in a Sources section at the end of the article, instead of being embedded in the body of the articles &mdash; see any of our published articles to see how it's done.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the work on the article.

It doesn't appear, though, that this is news &mdash; that is, it isn't clear this falls into the special class of materials that belong on Wikinews rather than on a sister project such as Wikibooks or Wikipedia. A peculiar characteristic of news, as we practice it here, is that a news article has a focus that is specific, relevant, and fresh. Fresh is a problem here. Unless something specific has happened in the past day or two, around which the article can be built, it's not news.

There are other significant problems with the article, but that is a really fundamental one. --Pi zero (talk) 14:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Pillars
A Wikinews article is built around a focus, which is represented most centrally by the lede. Please take a look at WN:Pillars of Wikinews writing. --Pi zero (talk) 16:46, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Varanasi article
Every place in the world has it's policies and then it has its UNWRITTEN policies. In general, for the most part, long-form journalism does not work here (not to say that it never does and not to say that it never will)......but we report THE NEWS here. That's it: THE NEWS. Nothing more and nothing less. You write well, you really do....both your intelligence and your education show themselves quite readily. Here, though, we have a certain style. It's a news style. It's tight, crisp and punchy. From what I saw, you've got fodder for a massive article, but considering what you posted, it lacks focus. Re-focus on an event....and report on that event. Keep your sentences short and tight. Answer: who, what, why, when and where? ......and do it QUICKLY. Please keep working. If you're interested in journalism, I think you could do a lot here.....but you have to learn our "flow" regarding style. Let me know via my talk page if I can help you, OK?? --Bddpaux (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You made some noteworthy improvements...you did! But the sources section is still huge!! However, I'm not telling you to remove a source if it contains valid material used in the article itself......all statements in the article must be verifiable by a reviewer. I just think that statistically-speaking, its hard for me to believe that each and every one of those sources has bits of info woven into the article itself. I'm sorry in the bigger scheme, I'm just too tired and too busy to do another review on this article right now....I'll have to let someone else handle it. --Bddpaux (talk) 22:10, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

16:33, 16 November 2013 (UTC)~ I have removed all that was not essential. I hope the reviewer can finalise the article now and that it can be published at the earliest.


 * On a small but (I think, at least) important note: this article may or may not be published. But, you're a smart person and you write well. If it doesn't get published, you just have to back away, take a few deep breaths and try again!! Sometimes (here, at least) the dumbest thing you can do is to keep hacking away at a story that's gone stale....it's just not smart. Most of the time, an event happens (I'm talking about a big event)...and little events bubble up from that event for weeks. If the event is big enough, there'll be plenty of fodder for you to write about down the road.


 * This is good advice that I hope you'll heed: start off here with short, tight articles! A couple of photos, a couple of quotes, a nice lede, inverted pyramid style etc. etc. Bam, bam, bam, bop, bop, bop....'He did this' 'She did that' snap, snap, snap. Quick, terse, tight. Many articles I see spring forth from Indian sources are SO INCREDIBLY VERBOSE. It doesn't help (or, at least it may not) that you're also a documentarian. You've got hours and hours and hours to tell "your story" in your world. But this is a NEWS PLACE. It's about THE NEWS here. We don't ramble and bramble about too much here....we just don't. I hope you stick around....I really mean that. I'd love to work with you on a few articles, I really would. --Bddpaux (talk) 17:58, 16 November 2013 (UTC)



I'd like to echo what Bddpaux is saying. We desperately need good Indian content. We want you as a contributor. We very much do. It is obvious you are a competent, coherent writer who wants to learn our policies. That's a major plus. At the moment, one thought might be to try to make this simpler. Write a short, three paragraph article that gets the bare minimum of facts required to get an idea. Once you get the first one published on the topic, then it will be easier for us as reviewers to understand how you use sources, how the sources themselves are working and how India works. The first two paragraphs of Litigation for Varanasi Heritage intensifies probably could be an article on their own, if restructured and the sources were listed that made these easy to verify. After that is done, we can have a follow up article that talks about people's responses to the article. This is a valid topic in and of itself and can extend out the publishing timeline as new opinions may have been shared. Added advantage of this is also more potential traffic because of multiple articles around the same broad general topic. --LauraHale (talk) 18:09, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Please see my fresh review. --Bddpaux (talk) 01:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Global English
Y'know, I fully agree with you......there are at least 20 different "flavors" of English the-world-over. I actually like some Indian-English idioms.....I think many of them are interesting. For what its worth, I do try hard to remember (in a larger sense) that there are many different types of English....and try to incorporate that into my reviewing style/flow. When in doubt, however, we fall back to the style guide here.....that's just how it works. Stay with us! Keep contributing, please! Hang in there! --Bddpaux (talk) 19:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Well......
....you've gotten your first article published here. I hope it's the start of something big. --Bddpaux (talk) 20:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Develop??
Please don't remove the develop template from the top of an article while you're working on it......(I presume your doing so was an accident). --Bddpaux (talk) 20:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Varanasi Heritage litigation extending in the court of public debate
There's some difficulty arising here over the notion of news article focus. See my latest review comments, and. --Pi zero (talk) 15:28, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Modern media battles in the ancient city of Varanasi
I deleted Modern media battles in the ancient city of Varanasi as abandoned. Should you want it restored to you userspace, just leave me a message on my talk page. — Mike moral  ♪♫  07:50, 11 December 2013 (UTC)