User talk:Vanished user adhmfdfmykrdyr/Archive

Ha ha!
You got hit with the the Wikinews "boilerplate" welcome template.

All it misses is a fluffy bunny and a "We know you hate pommie bastards" footnote. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:26, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I love boilerplates! And I love pommie bastards! They have excellent taste in friends. ;) I also love the Scotts. :D --LauraHale (talk) 02:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Australian women's water polo team convincingly takes test series against Great Britain
You'll see I left a note on the talk page, plus made another edit to illustrate a couple of the points highlighted there.

Remember, when you're done click the button in the template to mark the article for review. Other contributors will stay hands-off on an article's submission if it stays marked as developing &mdash; unless expressly asked to pick it up in some way.

So far I don't see anything remotely resembling a show-stopper, or major stumbling block. Thus, I hope when you do end up with this published you can give some feedback and highlight weak points in project documentation. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Australian women's water polo team takes test series against Great Britain
Congratulations! This article has been published. See the. --Pi zero (talk) 20:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Adam Folkard and Nick Norton ready for more men's softball
I've set this aside temporarily, off the queue (technically, a not-ready review) to ask for a clarification regarding the notes &mdash; my question actually isn't to do with the handwriting. :-)

See review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 16:51, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Published. See, of course.


 * It occurred to me the more appropriate sourcing template was probably interview, rather than original. --Pi zero (talk) 21:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

3 sound right??
By my count....you've written 3 articles here? That sound about right? Bddpaux (talk) 17:37, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Three published, one unpublished. Another one submitted for review last night. --LauraHale (talk) 19:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, got it.Bddpaux (talk) 20:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Trophy
Congratulations! Keep on keeping on! --Bddpaux (talk) 20:04, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012
Laura,

Looking forward to seeing your next sports story!

Will you be attending Wikimania 2012 this year? I'm trying to put a reporting team together for Wikinews. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Crtew (talk) 22:24, 22 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Not attending Wikimania. My dissertation will be under assessment then, I'm trying to sort out visa stuff, trying to get a job, and the $2,600 in airfare makes it difficult.  (Plus, if I am going to the USA, I'd rather go home to Chicago.) Any help I can provide, let me know as I do a tremendous amount of stuff.  If you're looking people, Graham87 will be attending and he has done some work with the HOPAU project. --LauraHale (talk) 22:49, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's great news about your work! Maybe we will meet at another time after your milestone. Do you know which sister project Graham87 is involved in? / Switching to Wikipeda: The other thing I've meaning to ask you for some time now, is whether I could get an editable copy of the biography guide for journalists that was adapted from your sports bios guide. What I would like to do is to make some changes there and then pass it back to you to see if everything from a Wikipedia perspective.Crtew (talk) 13:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Japan beats Aussie Spirit in first two games of series
See Talk:...#Review of revision 1445439 [Not ready]. --Pi zero (talk) 04:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Ayat Nasir
No need to blank the page for nonsense like this; just add. (Do blank the page when using copyvio.) --Pi zero (talk) 11:31, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Australian archer Odette Snazelle in Canberra for nationals
Hello. Can you please take a look at the comment that I just added at Talk:Australian archer Odette Snazelle in Canberra for nationals? (Incidentally, thank you for the very nice article.) -131.107.0.86 (talk) 18:36, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The same comment applies to the use of the same word in the Australian archer Alice Ingley readies for potential Olympic spot article. -131.107.0.86 (talk) 18:39, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I checked with Laura, and corrected these. Thanks for catching them.  --Pi zero (talk) 20:13, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Do you accept this nomination for reviewer?
WN:FR/RCP#LauraHale (talk · contribs – Edit rights)

--Pi zero (talk) 13:39, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Questionable congratuations
You are now a reviewer!

Despite claiming a lack of familiarity with the WN:SG, I think you'll be surprised how short a document it actually is. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:28, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * A couple of links: Template:Reviewer message, WN:Tips on reviewing articles.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:44, 22 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Awesome. Thanks.  When my dissertation is not so looming, I will look at it more. :) --LauraHale (talk) 01:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Congratuléichons
You are now an accredited reporter! Please contact Brian McNeil for access to your Wikinewsie e-mail account and optionally (don't know what's its status by now anyway) you can request access to the Wikinewsie wiki for private editing. Again, congrats! Diego Grez (talk) 02:04, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Will do. --LauraHale (talk) 02:15, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This means you can do all the evil score-keeping shtuff like have Laura Hale redirect to your userpage (unless someone more famous really, really needs it), you can create a hidden category Category:LauraHale (Wikinewsie) and get all articles where you're primary author tagged with it &mdash; which allow you to use dynamic page lists to build lists of your articles on any topic, or those that make FA, etc. etc.
 * I know, you're probably still hip deep in academic work, but can you confirm you've reset your wikinewsie email password? --Brian McNeil / talk 12:51, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Deep in panic land. I did get your e-mail.  I'm busy ignoring half the world.  Will try to login later today. --LauraHale (talk) 20:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Australian Paralympic runners prepare for London
I had trouble with the verification phase on this. Compounding my already feeling guilty I hadn't gotten to it sooner. Review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 20:06, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Water polo results
Live match updates were posted on results.fonbet.info/?locale=en. The site is a gambling site but I checked the live results against ongoing Australian Football League results so they appeared to be accurate.

18:20	Russia (w)-Germany (w)	16:3(1-1 4-2 7-0) as of 19:19.

19:40	China (w)-Greece (w) 21:00	USA (w)-Australia (w)

This game had not started. --LauraHale (talk) 09:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

At 19:20: Russia (w)-Germany (w)	18:4(1-1 4-2 7-0 6-1)	final	Goal Ord.:1212111211111111111112

--LauraHale (talk) 09:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

oddsportal.com gave the following odds for the game: Today, 03 Jun 2012 - Play Offs	1	X	2	B's 11:40	Australia W - USA W	2.35	6.00	1.90	4

These odds mean the USA was expected to win but they expected the results to be close.

19:44	China (w)-Greece (w)	0:1 19:50	China (w)-Greece (w)	1:1 19:54	China (w)-Greece (w)	1:2 20:03	China (w)-Greece (w)	1:2 20:08	China (w)-Greece (w)	5:4(1-2 4-2) 20:20	China (w)-Greece (w)	5:4(1-2 4-2) 20:21	China (w)-Greece (w)	6:4(1-2 4-2) 20:23	China (w)-Greece (w)	6:6(1-2 4-2) 20:31	China (w)-Greece (w)	7:7(1-2 4-2 1-2) 20:40	China (w)-Greece (w)	7:7(1-2 4-2 1-2) 20:45	China (w)-Greece (w)	7:8(1-2 4-2 1-2 1-2)

20:59	USA (w)-Australia (w)	0:0 21:02	USA (w)-Australia (w)	0:0 21:10	USA (w)-Australia (w)	1:1

--LauraHale (talk)

Misc Australian stuff
Boredom led assistant coach Ryan Moar to play with a remote controlled helicopter in his hotel room during the competition.



The team warmed up pool side before their games.

Assistant coach Ryan Moar shared pictures with friends and family back home in australia using Instagram.



Nicola Zagame was in Singapore on 16 May before leaving for China for the competition.



Nicola Zagame enjoyed the pool while in Singapore.



Jane Moran tweeted on game day: Final of World League Super Finals today v USA - goooo Stingers! ‪#stingerspride



Rowena Webster had been actively tweeting until the time that the team was, according to the date stamps on Zagame's tweets, in Singapore. She did not tweet during the Super League Finals.



Zagame stopped tweeting after the team left Singapore.

Melissa Rippon stopped tweeting after the team left Singapore.



The team arrived in Shanghai and the Shanghai Institute of Sport a week before the start of the FINA Super League Finals. During their week long preparation, there was a focus on strength and fitness training. During this period, the players did not have access to Twitter, Facebook or television. They did not get an opportunity to explore the city until they had been there for six days.

Bronwen Knox took and shared a picture of the venue using Instagram on May 27.

The team cooled down after the June 1 game.



The game started at 9pm Australian local time. Water Polo Australia tweeted a picture of players from Facebook 10 minutes before the game started saying the team hoped to celebrate like in that picture.



Team USA had team branded k tape. The Australians found this funny.

Channel 9 ran a story about the women's water polo team on television on 3 June afternoon.

Players did a variety of things during the pre-game including playing with their phones, warming up and getting their arms taped.

Players talked during the pre-game. It was business as usual for them.



The team's last training session before playing the United States took place 8 hours before the game.



At the end of the first quarter, Australia was behind 2-1 with the team's lone goal scored by Bronwen Knox off a Kate Gynther pass.



Speedy-delete tags
Suggestion: when tagging pages for speedy deletion, don't remove the existing content. The responding admin should check the content to be sure they agree with the assessment anyway, and this makes it easier. Goes double for comments pages, as replacing their content confuses LQT.

(That last one, Thalassoneomoresia, btw, oughtn't have been reason "spam", but "Wikinews is not Wikipedia"; I feel embarrassed about it, entirely my fault: I checked the removed content, worked out what the criterion should be, and then, perhaps because I'm not yet as awake as I should be when deleting stuff, selected advertising/spam from the deletion menu anyway out of habit, so now it's down permanently in the deletion log as advertising/spam.)  --Pi zero (talk)

Sexual harrassment accusations against Geno Auriemma non-story
Hi. I finally reviewed it; alas the second paragraph needs a rewrite. There were also some verification difficulties, and I suggested a headline change might be in order. Review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 17:55, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Serious concerns with FanFiction story
Hi Laura,

I've got some serious concerns over the FanFiction story. I've listed a whole stack of problems at Talk:FanFiction.Net adult content purge felt across fandom two weeks on. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:06, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Request for adminship: LauraHale
I've nominated you for adminship. Do you accept my nomination? Please indicate so at Requests for permissions --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 17:36, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * 'Cos you've already got enough votes to be well-on-the way to getting the fiddly bit. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:53, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Here's your mop.
Get working. ;) --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 05:56, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow. :D Thanks. :D --LauraHale (talk) 05:58, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

NewsieBot test
The file 2012-07-19.pdf was uploaded to jws.wikinewsie.org at 09:15 BST. That sound about right to you?

I think we'll have to suggest people put their username in the file name so we know who put what up. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Sounds right. I can't really change the file at the moment when uploading.  Can try tomorrow.  (Tried to upload 2 sound files and 4 PDFs.) Will play more tomorrow. --LauraHale (talk) 12:45, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Simply avoid putting them straight into the upload folders. Upload to the Wikinews folder, rename and then move into the upload_JWS folder.
 * I'm partway through checking out automated video conversion. You're an iPhone user, right? Can you record a short video clip of something and put it in the Wikinews folder? I can then use that to fine-tune conversion work. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:43, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just so you know. It's currently not working at all following an upgrade of MediaWiki on JWS. And, as oh-so-often happens, the bot framework I'm trying to use was decided as 'too iffy', they wrote a new one called Peachy; it too is being rewritten, but the guys developing it can't keep their wiki online so there's zero documentation accessible. Aaaaaargh! --Brian McNeil / talk 18:26, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * * Going to continue to try to upload to dropbox today just because it makes phone transfer easier. --LauraHale (talk) 21:48, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That ain't going to work; wikinewsie.org has been suspended, and I suspect it was dropbox deemed to be abusing the shared hosting.
 * I've got the hosting company to escalate it, and am going to have to try to find a way to make dropbox less load-intensive on the server. At the moment all I'm waiting on is them bringing it back online. &lt;grumbles&gt; --Brian McNeil / talk 11:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Dropbox was the culprit when it came to the suspension of the account. :(

I've said I'll find an alternative way to deal with that (i.e. borrow a monitor and keyboard from $WORK and set up the Proliant here). Then said "sorry" for it, that I'll read the T+C more-closely,can I please have the other services re-enabled, and it wasn't very nice that nobody cautioned me I couldn't run it before suspending the account. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:20, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikinews workshop
I asked what interest there might be amongst Wikimedia UK people if I was coming down to London to run a workshop. I've had two private replies that folks would be very interested, plus Tom Morris would be able to come along and help out with it.

Three folks with review privs at a workshop would be great. I know you'll want a fair degree of focus on OR work; but, anyone really new to Wikinews is best to start out on synthesis stuff. I remember doing the WikiVoices session with Jimbo and a bunch of other folks writing an article. That took an age because of the Wikipedian-style "throw everything at it and see what sticks", but came out as a good piece of synthesis. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm open for anything. Basic writing structure is the main goal.  Doesn't need to be OR. :)  That was what I did with Hawkeye7. --LauraHale (talk) 21:44, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Randomised usernames
If someone creates Verqrfawsgawdeqwe as a username, then spams, you can assume that's the only thing the account was created for. I.e. block 'em, zap the spam. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:14, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Will remember and do that. --LauraHale (talk) 20:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Email
I've sent you an email. Please respond by email, as I don't get on News very often. Sven Manguard (talk) 15:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Oregembe article
(I probably should've put this on the article's talk page, but I didn't.....so here goes): "When asked if he had faced racism while playing, he said that in the United Kingdom he had not, despite the reputation the country holds in this area. Playing club wheelchair basketball on the continent was a different issue where he had it both to his face and behind his back, noting it was a particular problem in Spain." .....sometimes, something just reads kinda funny........this is one of those times. I think that pargraph needs tightening in a few places.....and I just can't get a feel for what, why or where.......but it just reads funny, know what I mean?Bddpaux (talk) 02:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I get what you mean there. At the time I wrote it, I was trying to briefly summarise parts of the interview.  I was also a bit confused as to how to write it up. --LauraHale (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Please don't.........
.....take my recent review comments too harshly, as they weren't meant as such! --Bddpaux (talk) 20:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Not taken that way. The write ups weren't that great. --LauraHale (talk) 21:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Second thought, I didn't take them as harshly. Having read them, I see them as singularly non-constructive with the idea of helping a writer improve the article for publication.  The feedback was not very actionable in terms of improving.  The purpose of failing reviews is not to prevent an article from being published but to offer actionable advise to have it more closer towards publication.  You did none of that.  At the same time, you commented on my talk page, instead of Bidgee's talk page.  Bidgee was the primary writer. --LauraHale (talk) 23:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Reporters' Workshop/London August 2012
Have at it. I'm linking to it from the Wikimedia UK wiki and will highlight it on their mailing list. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:43, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Trying to understand how things work here
Why did this receive a "draft" tag instead of a "delete" tag. BusterD (talk) 15:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sometimes we "live in hope". If the contributor finds a couple of sources, writes an article in their own words, and gets it moved to a more-appropriate title, it can be reviewed.
 * We've processes for deleting stuff that is unpublished and has become stale. We also use Flagged Revisions; this means that the article you're asking about is unpublished. Nothing goes on the main page, or gets pushed out to Google News/Facebook/Twitter et-al until it passes an independent peer review.
 * So, whilst we'll pull cartoon-esque humungous hammers out our pockets and squash spammers with 'em, there's no need to be that negative with someone who, to the extent that person does, "lacks clue". Honestly, the first couple of failing reviews &mdash; which virtually everyone ends up getting &mdash; are discouraging enough. They are meant to be constructive criticism, and actionable points that a contributor can use to take an article to a genuinely ready-to-publish stage; unfortunately, a lot of people don't see them that way when compared with a stub tag or a few citation needed tags they might get on Wikipedia.
 * Hope that answers your question. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It helps. Thanks Brian. Things are done a tiny bit differently here, and if I can help, I'll need to be shown around a bit. I hope making small mistakes will allow me the chance to move onto larger ones. In the case I mentioned above, the album is nine years old and has no relationship with breaking news. I like that the intention is not to bite newbies, but this has the look of ip vandalism, not potential news material. BusterD (talk) 16:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sometimes, I am unsure what to do, so I just tag things as draft so they do not get lost if it does turn out to be spam. --LauraHale (talk) 21:45, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * BusterD, sometimes we don't bite the utterly clueless noobs; we chew 'em up, and spit the juice in a glass. Like Laura, I knew nothing about this topic, so it gets kicked into the leftfield, and we up the stakes on the original contributor justifying themselves.
 * If you want a go at contributing here, doing your version of a big mainstream story is a good start (eg, find three sources on Michael Jackson coming back to life, write the story in your own words, and take it from there).
 * If anyone does not give constructive criticism, complain - we'll give 'em hell. But, still assume you'll likely lose your first story (or see it put in your userspace) whilst you get to grips with the style.
 * Our biggest drawback is the small, dedicated, base that reviews articles; our biggest advantage is the small, dedicated, base who can put a new contributor on the right track. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:59, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I lost my first story. :) Hawkeye7's first story I completely rewrote from scratch. --LauraHale (talk) 22:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

ArbCom...
So, lemmie get this straight:


 * First contribution(s) around 8 months ago.
 * Now Admin, reviewer, and arbcom member.

More GLAMcamp people should get involved. :P --Brian McNeil / talk 13:17, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikinews is less stress and the rewards at time feel greater. There is no inherent bias against sport because it brings down the project. The guidelines appear pretty straightforward. I have less general anxiety.  Once an article is done, it is generally done so I don't have to watch for editing violations.  Hence, while on a ten day Wikipedia editing breaking during a New Zealand holiday, I am not on a Wikinews break. --LauraHale (talk) 18:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Good to hear it. I just landed in Edinburgh, I'll need to crash for a few hours, and start filling in another hugely complex expenses claim once I do wake up.
 * Need to sort the workshop out, but I'll hopefully catch up on that tonight, or tomorrow when I'm in the office. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:00, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Ethiopian prime minister Meles Zenawi dies at 57‎
I have added the bit on human rights and the exact date of death. I hope the article is now in a better shape. ₫ӓ₩₳  Talk to Me.   Email Me.  13:09, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Edward_Francis_Anhalt
I'm contacting you here at Wikinews per your request on your English Wikipedia talk page. Would you take a look here if you have the time and interest? If not, then please don't worry. Best, Cunard3 (talk) 00:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Really don't have a desire to get into a deletion debate like that while doing London Paralympic coverage. : / Only so much stress one can take.  I can tell you that despite claims the sources look like they pass WP:GNG, I found several did not actually support the text written and some claims were downright dubious. (The guy is a dean at a university that sells diplomas.  Erk.) --LauraHale (talk) 00:58, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries, and thank you for taking a look. I'll copy your comment about the sources over to the AfD so they can be considered by the closer. Cunard3 (talk) 03:29, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

International Paralympic Committee holds first press conference
The ogg audio was much better, though there were some parts, especially at the beginning, I couldn't make out. Finally had to decide between deleting the last two our five paragraphs, and not-ready'ing. Not a fun choice. Not-ready'd; better to work through problems sooner so things will work more smoothly later. Review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

USE SECURE

 * Important

Both you and Hawkeye should always be using https:// when accessing Wikinews from the Paralymics, and from other networks other than your own. I take it for granted a lot of the WiFi networks you may use will be unencrypted, so your password would end-up being transmitted in clearly-readable form.

WiFi networks where you connect, then enter a username (or email) and password are, misleadingly, invariably an unencrypted connection. The only secure WiFi networks are those where you need a password to connect to WiFi itself. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:38, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not actually using Wifi. (Outside a bit at WM-UK.)  No one can get it to work at our hotel and we're thus on 3G, which is shit.  Otherwise, using hardwired stuff at the Paralympic Media Centre. --LauraHale (talk) 18:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Colombian President announces peace talks with FARC rebels
Laura, any chance of reviewing this one before it goes stale? I know you are busy with a little thing called the Olympics. I think the other candidates to review it have contributed to the article. I believe it is straight-forward. Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:53, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Happy to help knowing what I am basically doing to the rest of the active reviewers. :) --LauraHale (talk) 05:03, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Philafrenzy (talk) 09:05, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Egyptian President Morsi makes state visit to China
Any chance of looking at this one Laura? 17 hours and counting. Thanks, Philafrenzy (talk) 18:31, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Zero. At the Opening Ceremonies tonight (right now) and absolutely cannot.  Still debating how to cover this. : / Then I have to be somewhere at 9:30am after not getting back until after midnight. :( --LauraHale (talk) 19:09, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:42, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Feedback

 * I've asked around (a few Wikimedians, a few non-Wikimedians), and largely positive feedback on Wikinews' coverage of the Paralympics so-far. Criticism that came in a few times was: "more text would be nice"; this in-reference to some of the photoessay-type articles. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:22, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That's awesome. Photoessays are basically easy and cheap to do in terms of writing.  I don't know how much text I will actually manage, but trying my hardest.  Ross will probably do the more in depth stories.  But yay! :)  Good to know. --LauraHale (talk) 14:28, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Australian shooters start their 2012 Paralympic campaign
The start list shows three Chinese competitors, but only two were listed in the article. Was this an omission? --Pi zero (talk) 14:48, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Erk. kind of, yeah. I didn't list them all but just a few to give an idea as to who was there and mention names.  I like to mention names. --LauraHale (talk) 14:54, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

South Korean men's national goalball team defeats Algeria 4-3
Not ready. --Pi zero (talk) 22:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Frank Ponta inducted into the Paralympic Hall of Fame

 * "His spirit lives on in a new generation of athletes and coaches."

I think you can probably guess why I've pulled the above sentence; it qualifies as shameless editorializing. However, if someone at the induction ceremony said it, then it can be included as a quote. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:36, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Didn't write it. Go tell Hawkey7. :)  He needs to get better at knowing how to write.  Getting better and more competent and we're still working on notes. --LauraHale (talk) 08:42, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't want to nag, but...
... If you want to keep using the word "Interview", people are going to expect an actual Q&A interview.

I know, from having done an actual interview, how difficult a full-blown transcription is. What, Paralympics-wise, has been put up with "Interview" in the title, frankly, isn't. The articles need liberal, and substantial, use of quotes from the interviewees.

Paraphrasing what you're told by the interviewee presents a swathe of problems; have you confirmed with them they're not being misrepresented? Have you avoided inserting your own POV?

I'm raising this now because I think it needs taken on-board before something fails review, and fails in a hard, unrecoverable, manner. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:48, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * This is true. I get the motives for just describing what was said, but... yeah.  And even when the non-transcripted interview manages to achieve acceptability, it's hobbled on article quality.  Any interview will produce a substantially lower-quality article without a transcript.  When we land a really juicy interview, sans transcript it'll never approach its potential (eg, no shot at FA).  --Pi zero (talk) 23:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure how to fix this at this point. : / Is the current article recoverable?  I'm willing to try to put the work into it but trying a longer summary seemed a bit fail when Bidgee did it. :/  The PoV part was my recollection of the conversation, by saying what was discussed rather than interpretting it. LauraHale (talk) 07:02, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Paralympic table tennis silver medalist Piotr Grudzien beats Poland's Richard Csejtey
Just needs a spot of tightening up here and there, really. --Bddpaux (talk)

Swimming?
Will you be attending any swimming events? If Canada's Summer Mortimer competes, I'd love a photo for my new Wikipedia article. (Great Paralympic coverage, by the way, amazing level of output.) --  Zanimum (talk) 20:43, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Can't release images in any license but CC-BY-NC. :( Attended swimming last night and they were extremely anti-picture from the press area.  The venue is kind of awful. : /  Didn't write up last night's swimming results because it was kind of overwhelming what we saw and doing that many articles just kills. :( --LauraHale (talk) 20:48, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Bleck, re: NC. Thanks for the heads up! --  Zanimum (talk) 21:26, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure fair use rationale on French Wikipedia so they may be usable there if I have them. I could probably get an interview from a Canadian if  I wanted one, but have been nervous about doing that.  I am really nervous as I do not feel experienced enough to do that, and I do not feel easy about writing things up. : /  Goal tomorrow is to try more of that. --LauraHale (talk) 22:02, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Add seasoning to taste
Just a passing thought. As I recall, one of the more fascinating things I've picked up from our results reports over the past week wasn't in our article, it caught my eye on peripheral pages during review. The description goalball audiences watching silently so the players can hear the bells; quite an image. --Pi zero (talk) 15:00, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Been trying to add that when I can, but hard to do. My notes tend to be more comprehensive than my actual writing because not sure how to add it in.  (Though I tried that with Canada to give an idea of the audience.) --LauraHale (talk) 16:52, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Sunday's 15 medal ceremonies

 * Just one thing I can't clarify on this: Para 6, "Namibia's Johanna Benson". I've no idea what you're trying to say in-terms of cheering between her versus the Brits in the same event. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:25, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * In terms of loudness, Poms got the most. Nambia & other Commonwealth country second loudest cheer.  Non-commonwealth countries smallest cheer.  Nambia was slightly louder than some of the other countries in the Commonwealth. --LauraHale (talk) 12:59, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Uhm, that's what I'd expect; but, I can't work out how you're trying to articulate that, or what it's association with her not using starting blocks is. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:06, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Just remove? Not that big of a deal.  Two points not connected.  I was just probably doing information overload and trying to give an idea of the atmosphere. --LauraHale (talk) 13:15, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Slovakia's Alena Kanova defeats Sara Head, taking bronze in class 3 table tennis

 * Sets played, when the Brits went quiet?
 * Scorecard says four sets for a 3-1 win. I suspect, from your notes, you thus mean the brits went quiet in the fourth set, not the third. Need to clarify that in the article text. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:25, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Image licensing
I've been wanting to write some Paralympic articles on the English Wikipedia, and I noticed that you uploaded a bunch of awesome images to Wikinews. Unfortunately the images are licensed as non-commercial. Is there any chance you'd be willing to re-license them as cc-by or cc-by-sa so that they could be used on Wikipedia? (If you don't want to re-license them all, I could specify which ones would be helpful for me at the moment). Feel free to reply here, on my Wikinews talk page, or on my English Wikipedia talk page. Best, IronGargoyle (talk) 00:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The conditions of my entry are that my pictures not be used commercially. While I would love to change the license, I cannot without risking the loss of my accreditation.--LauraHale (talk) 05:50, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Last 3 reviews
All had problems. One I not-ready'd, the other two got published but neither was published with any images and the last one published had a mess of stuff cut as not verified. --Pi zero (talk) 05:29, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Changed licensing on the three and put it back. Uploaded those via dropbox and then forgot/had issues.  (And then my data plan on my iPad died and I could not renew as it wanted a GB billing address and that did not work at all.)  Will try harder to make things more verifiable.  Thought I had been pretty good with that. :(--LauraHale (talk) 05:54, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I assume you got a Pay'n'Go micro-SIM for the iPad. If so, there should be a way to buy a top-up voucher for cash and get that put on the account. Seeing this, I'm going to move the compressed backup out of the dropbox to save your quota. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:11, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Dropbox
As I didn't see any audio upload for the goalball interview, I checked on DALEK. Everything seems to be running there, but you'd an awful lot of old files that've already been uploaded to here.

I've compressed those uploaded to here, which should free up some space in the dropbox. It'll take a while to sync that to your device(s) - it's about a gig, or I can move it out of the dropbox altogether (faster). --Brian McNeil / talk 09:09, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * did I move it? Fear I just put it in wikinews. Transferred over I think. Do not know where other copy in wikinews got to. :( Erk. Hoping to get thing sorted this afternoon as APC would love for us to interview some of their staff and Oceania Paralympians.--LauraHale
 * Dropbox is sorted and running. I found the interview audio, moved it to the Wikinews side, and it popped up. That let me finish copyedit and review on the article. Well-worth looking at how I pulled content from the prior article on the actual match. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * on iPhone at moment. At this point where so full on with writing, not having much of an opportunity to look at what is getting pulled and learning. :/ we need a rehash after this for what worked and did not, how to improve, etc. if you have general feedback that can read, awesome. If I have a laptop, been takin notes live while watching. Then some thing seem obvious to me as I swatches it like Aussie player socks. Also things easy to forget like Dropbox copyright. I like things submitted before moving to next thing as I have been crashing at 1am. Bigger places have people specializing in sports or small ones have only an athlete or two to follow. --laurahale
 * Definitely could've done with a larger on-site, and 'back-office' crew.
 * Will need a post-mortem once the dust has settled, looks like Dropbox has been an absolutely brilliant tool for this.
 * Just quickly scan the Tayler interview. Paragraph 2 is the last paragraph from the related news article, para 3 also from that. Lifted them, minor copyedit, and the interview has a far better introduction.
 * Photoessays haven't worked that well, Google doesn't rank them much unless have a substantial amount of text.
 * Page views on Wikinews itself are lower than I'd hoped, but our "reach" on Facebook has gone ballistic; a week ago it was under 6,000. Now? it's a shade over 145,000. Post-paralympics we need to look at what could help turn that into page views; I suspect we need a FB app. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:01, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Goalball photo
That top-most photo in that article, you really, really, really, REALLY have to submit that to Commons!! It's a good photo!! Could be a featured image, or something! I mean it! --Bddpaux (talk)

Please!!!
.....fix Greece defeats Portugal in boccia match at 2012 London Paralympics. A very valuable contribution in the world of Paralympics reporting! --Bddpaux (talk)

Facebook covers
If you spot any photos that'll lend themselves to making a new Facebook cover, point me at them. Doesn't take long, and keeps the Wikinews profile on Facebook noticed. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:13, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Will do. --LauraHale (talk) 08:41, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Shortened infobox on Paralympics articles

 * I've added an optional 'short=yes' parameter to the 2012 Olympic Paralympics template. Useful where the article is a little shorter, and the infobox otherwise-overpowers it.
 * Using the parameter,, sees the picture dropped, the logo placed at the top, and not shown at the bottom. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:40, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah. Cool.  Awesome. :) --LauraHale (talk) 08:42, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Greece defeats Portugal in boccia match at 2012 London Paralympics
Can you verify I've not screwed up what this says about points in the latter part?

I'm going to do some quick crops on the photos, and hope you can okay what I've done in copyediting at the same time. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:16, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Interview transcription help
As you've commented, transcribing an interview can be a bit difficult. So, at a late stage for the Paralympics, but potentially useful in-future, I've found a little Linux utility called "rubberband". Another task that NewsieBot could take on.

Taking the File:Duncan campbell.ogg interview, I've first stretched it to a couple of different lengths to see what would be most-effective when trying to transcribe. Can you and Hawkeye7 give these a listen? I'm a little uncomfortable with the latter one being done to someone with a disability, so this may-well be something we don't want to be doing on a public wiki. But, the whole point is to speed up the transcription process by pacing out the audio to make keeping up when typing easier. I suspect there's going to be a point where the audio is stretched too much, and you'd lose the ability to readily transcribe due to waiting for words to be spoken. Can easily create copies at other lengths to fine-tune this to suit. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:00, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * From my conversation with Hawkeye7, the most difficult part for him has been trying to make the text comprehensible. We understand what is said in person, but not necessarily when reading a transcript. --LauraHale (talk) 11:33, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Some people will talk in a very fragmented conversational manner when interviewed, others have experience with public speaking and no problem whatsoever giving answers which may-well be long and detailed.
 * What I've observed from Hawkeye7's transcripts are a few points where a little-too-much liberty is taken with what's said. You have to be as-faithful to what is said, and resort to [The editor explains succinctly &mdash;Ed.] insertions. Of course you trim out the "uhmmm", "err", "like" and other 'verbal procrastination'; but you have to try and let the person's word-choice show their character. I noticed in the Campbell interview you teased with a "Canadianism" which he used too. That sort of stuff should be written in for those who'll get the joke. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have been doing the interviews but not the transcribing and so smashed on lack of sleep, it is a wonder I am upright. If you could mention that to Hawkeye7, that would be good. As there aren't many examples I don't think of audio interviews, need more examples, we need to get examples up showing better and worse transcriptions for the future as reference. If you want to be adventurous, the following need transcriptions made by some one as they were one yesterday...




 * We have two more that need to be or are on JWS. --LauraHale (talk) 18:10, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Hellen Saohaga's London performance second best for Solomon Islands at Olympics, Paralympics
Problem encountered during verification. Review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 00:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad we were able to get it straightened out. --Pi zero (talk) 08:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Some what annoying mistake on my part. --LauraHale (talk) 09:01, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

WN:SD
Noticed you deleted some pages from your userspace using speedy-delete criterion 'abandoned article - 2 day warning'. Just thought I'd point out, another SD criterion that fits better is request of owner in user space (main exception iirc is when there's an administrative reason to keep the page). User request in userspace, btw, is why it was probably legit for Diego to delete his own talk page. (Author request, which rarely applies on Wikinews, might also apply here.) --Pi zero (talk) 08:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I did that and accidentally deleted a story Hawkeye7 was working on. Wasn't sure what to use for them as I was trying to clear my not working stuff out of the developing article space before I left.--LauraHale (talk) 08:59, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Samoa looking ahead to Rio Paralympics with eye on powerlifting
Published after trials and tribulations, described in review comment. --Pi zero (talk) 02:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Archive
Seems like this talk page is getting unwieldy in size; I suggest you might want to set up an archive. Myself, I archive my talk page manually every few weeks when I think it needs it, as I prefer the intelligent control thereby to some blind algorithm (well, that's me; I don't trust computers to make decisions). --Pi zero (talk) 02:55, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Trischa Zorn paralympic medals
Hi. We would love to have your opinion: The difficult question of the Paralympic medal count She said to you 55 (41 gold), the IPC will count only 46 (32 gold), also add the relay USA medals of the editions from 1980 to 1988 (5 gold and 1 bronze), it would not then total.55 but 52. --Kasper2006 (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Australian wheelchair rugby team wins gold at London Paralympics
Published. See review comments,. (Also leaving a note for Laura since she emailed the scans, which are addressed in the review comments.) --Pi zero (talk) 16:07, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Gaddafi Article
Hi, Thanks for reviewing my Gaddafi article. I have added the recent information about the death of Gaddafi's son and the possible capture of Moussa Ibrahim. Could you take another look please if you get a chance? CalF (talk), 21:07, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Hiding revisions
Just noticed hidden edit summary on Calf's vote. As it'd been done not logged in, and a tilde-signature put in, the IP was in the revision text too. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:35, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Translation note
It has two differences from translated quote: the parameters are in a different order, and it doesn't add quotation marks.

There's an example of how it might be used, in the template's documentation.

Imho, its a little bit awkward to use, but trying to design something significantly easier to user would probably require a lot of careful thought, and take days or longer.

(The next question in the example interview is, of course, "What is your quest?") --Pi zero (talk) 23:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Photograph request
Do you have a photograph of me in London? (Preferably wearing Wikimedia clobber?) I was sure we took one. Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:23, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

amusement parks
Should I create news about what happens in amusement parks? --Starship9000 (talk) 01:19, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Six Flags Over Texas introduces Texas SkyScreamer
I created a page about the new Texas SkyScreamer so please check if is it good. If it is good, leave a message below.

(ps:How do I become a WikiNews administrator)

--Starship9000 (talk) 01:03, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Welcome
Thanks for the welcome! :D Raystorm (talk) 13:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Deleted user subpage
Hello, Laura. I've noticed you deleted User:Ralgis/ertvfgeb. Are my subpages against English Wikinews policy? Should I re-write it on my main userpage? I just want to to keep the format of my other userpages if possible. Thank you in advance. &mdash;  mantis  [religiosa]  &mdash; 20:43, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Checked with Laura; there's no problem, just a misunderstanding. I can easily see how that could happen; we have had a lot of spambots lately, and these page names looked kind of ramdom.  Undeleted.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Would be grateful for your help
Can you please review this Thanks. TucsonDavid U . S .A . 23:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

IPC Alpine Ski World Championships
To the best of my ability, I will be more then willing to help you transcribe the interviews. TucsonDavid U . S .A . 15:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Great photos!

 * Just a drop in the proverbial bucket along the lines of what your really deserve....! Some great photos coming out of the IPC event(s)!! --Bddpaux (talk) 15:33, 22 February 2013 (UTC)



Question
Hi, I was just wondering why you keep changing the Pistorius article back from to. According to here, it is OK to ask for a quick review as this may become stale quickly if it is not reviewed whereas which is here states fast moving news where a death toll may rise or similar. --Computron (talk) 14:22, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * To say simply I am trying to say to you that there is a difference between and  . --Computron (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * May I ask where you get from please. I have never tagged it to be reviewed as breaking. --Computron (talk) 14:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it OK to put this article - here up for normal review? I've dealt with the changes you said to make and have listed them on the discussion page of the article. --Computron (talk) 09:25, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Review replies
Please see review replies here and here. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 13:53, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It's OK, no harm done. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 20:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Just a random little thing........
but just the other day, I was nowhere near Wikinews and stumbled onto a quick little YouTube video of Paralympics Table Tennis this past Fall.....it was a killer dive-shot made by a Class 6 player......it was cool! He ultimately lost that match, but it was an awesome saved shot! --Bddpaux (talk) 15:21, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

SRG
For your convenience, a place to report spambots and crosswiki vandals to the stewards. --Rschen7754 08:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Reviving portals
but could I revive them before we decide to stop making them could I update them all and then ask here to decide to keep them with the updated template or information or to keep them as historical if the community decide they doint want to keep the portals anymore 109.144.213.216 (talk) 14:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

86.179.147.188
Hi, for your information, this IP User:86.179.147.188 which you blocked is a known cross-wiki disruptive user (m:SN). Best regards, --MF-Warburg (talk) 23:28, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * As Laura hasn't noticed, I'll say thank you on her behalf. I've a suspicion where we're in a position where a few stewards might want to watch for disruption like this.
 * But, we're left in a situation where things like this mean we want to ask some probing questions for our CheckUsers to take to their mailing list. We rarely get trolling of this "designed quality", assuming collaboration or meatpuppetry seems rational; but, something we cannot confirm or automatically assume. It is intensely annoying dealing with people who can pretend to be useful to get everyone dancing to their tune, so please keep an eye out for "the strange" coming to try their hand here in a smaller pool.
 * Given the "shut down Wikinews discussion", some of what we can expect right now is 'curious interest', some 'well-meaning suggestions', and a small proportion utter-fucktardery.
 * None of us here on Wikinews want to bite the wrong person's fingers off at the armpit, so we'd welcome help on trolling arising from discussions elsewhere and humoured on suspecting some of that could-well be "frighteningly well coordinated" sock and meat-puppetry. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:00, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I can assure you that this particular person is very improbably someone who is part of a coordinated attack at Wikinews. He edited under his account until that was locked, since then he edits under various IPs (mostly from British Telecommunications or open proxies), and does not seem to target any project in particular. I have reverted him messing with templates on various Wikipedias, Meta, Incubator etc. --MF-Warburg (talk) 01:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I guess garden-variety trolls can engage in willful stupidity too. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:44, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * That's for sure, unfortunately. --MF-Warburg (talk) 02:31, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:Region portal/sandbox
Hi have added leads to it all I have to do is create lead 2.0 and then could you check it please it is all together but when view in other portals like Europe and North America it show properly if I was to change it so it display properly on Template:Region portal/sandbox and it doesent the only way for it to display properly on Europe and other continents is to keep it the way it is Bluesky (talk) 12:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:NewPortal Lead 2.0
Hi I dint create Template:NewPortal Lead 2.0 and it was used in many portals to do with United Kingdom and other portals I was copy it to the other one for north Mercia but I had to test it before I could copy it because I would like to add the + sign to edit Bluesky (talk) 12:48, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * some else created I was using it template to create one for region portal so I can write news in the leads Bluesky (talk) 12:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I've updated region portal so I can edit North America with some leads Bluesky (talk) 12:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Your revision was rejected. Try User:Bluesky/Portal:North America as a place to start portal re-drafting. Might I ask what your experience with DPL and advance template work is?  Any edits outside your userspace for portals will lead to probable blocking.  This is not a priority area, and you have already been told this repeatedly.  In the meantime, while you try to figure out portal creation on youe userspace, might I suggest writing an article? --LauraHale (talk) 13:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * ok Bluesky (talk) 14:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

North Korea getting ready to attact North America
I am going to write news under the title North Korea getting ready to attact North America if its ok with you Bluesky (talk) 13:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Please run a spell check before submitting, write using inverted pyramid style, be neutral, have at least two news sources from the past 24 hours that support that, write in active voice, include an infobox and picture, credit the photographer of the picture, format interwiki links correctly, establish newsworthiness and avoid copyvios. But if that floats your boat, go for it. --LauraHale (talk) 13:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * ok is there any photo graphs of North Korea and North America on here Bluesky (talk) 13:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * could you check the article I written it Isent much but it can get improved over the days and I can move the tittle if it is a rubbish title I jut could think of any sand that tittle was the only one I could think of - could you check it too see if I need to add anything else Bluesky (talk) 13:27, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Template:NewPortal Lead 2.0
Hi could you get the codes from Template:NewPortal Lead 2.0 and put it in User:Bluesky/Region portal Lead 2.0 please Bluesky (talk) 14:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * No. As your current work on your user space appears to not be focused solely on North America. The name does not apply North America only. If you know DPL, java, etc., it does not seem like such a big burden to find other ones to edit.
 * In the meantime, rather than waste administrator time, please read the style guide and other advice on writing an article and getting your article fixed. In addition, extensive feedback has already been left for you on the talk page. You are demonstrating little interest in contributing to the community and we do not assume good faith about your motives on this project. --LauraHale (talk) 20:49, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * ok Bluesky (talk) 18:08, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

User:Bluesky/Main page
Hi could you have a look at User:Bluesky/Main page because I think it is ready to be put into Bluesky (talk) 18:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Regarding article Cricket: Indian Premier League starts with win for Kolkata, Bangalore follows trend.
Could you please point to me the exact place/point where you think I have written in a fan perspective? Also do point the places which are non-neutral. I have written about the performance of both the teams especially that of the captains and other lead player of both the teams. How can you call it non-neutral? Since it's a cricket related article, it needs to be written in such a way that it that the runs scored and wickets lost by the team be written. Sometimes it may look like the views of a sport commentator. Could you please tell me what is wrong in it? If you don't mind, I am re-nominating it for quick review after some minor changes. Thanking you for reviewing the article. Jayadevp13 (talk) 05:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

You have a message!
Please see my reply to your reviewing of the article. Several changes have been made. - Jayadevp13 (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Laura
Could you help me renaming that article please =)

Perhaps it could be called 'Vine Hits #1- Facebook not happy'

it.wikinews "Village pump" (the "Bar")
Hi. I suppose you got stopped by the instructions in Italian for writing at our Bar, sometimes even Italian-speaking users get confused. Feel absolutely free to write directly on Bar's main-page by usual page-sections; we'll provide to create proper sub-pages if needed.

If you want to write on one of already existing sub-pages transcluded in Bar's main-page, the link to click is "modifica", near the section title.

Ciao -- Codicorumus &laquo; msg 15:06, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Your article is on Norweigan Wikinews
Hello, your article is now on the Norwegian Wikinews: no:Geitehode levert til Chicago Cubs-eier Tom Ricketts. --Computron (talk) 20:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

w:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BarkingFish
Hi! You might want to be aware of the above SPI on enwiki, as I am told that BarkingFish is a sysop here. --Rschen7754 01:29, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

MountaineerUOW (talk) 11:41, 15 April 2013 (UTC) Hi LauraHale - thank you so much for your feedback, I'm new to all this!! I think I've address your concerns, the only one I wasn't sure about was the 'infobox, relevant news' dot point. I've put some images in...do you think it needs more? I've updated the article, but keen to hear your thoughts back on what more it needs. Thank you

MountaineerUOW (talk) 12:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC) Hi LauraHale, thank you again for the feedback - I'm learning lots as we go here. I think I've addressed the points you mentioned. And 'Pi zero' has renamed it...what else stands out to you, to be fixed?

At least 19 dead after car bombs explode and gunmen attack in Somali capital feedback
Hi Laura, Thank you for your feedback. I have taken it into consideration and changed some of the wording in my article. However, a lot of the matches between my article and the sources were direct quotes and facts. Do you suggest I abbreviate the quotes? Any other feedback would be appreciated Regards, Sally.

MountaineerUOW (talk) 08:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC) Hi Laura, you reviewed my 'rainbow crossing' piece yesterday...I was wondering if you would mind looking over it again to see whether it's ready to publish? I'm keen to hear your feedback and hopefully get the piece up soon! Thank you.


 * Hi. Around three different people reviewed the story over the last couple days and you can see latest review comments at the bottom of the article's talk page. Thanks for your questions there; I replied to them thoroughly and will encourage asking more questions on the article talk page during your work. Cheers, Gryllida 04:28, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

At least 19 dead after car bombs explode and gunmen attack in Somali capital feedback
Hi Laura, I am somewhat confused by your feedback. Earlier today, you mentioned that if I altered my article it would be publishable. I have restructured my sentences to avoid short sentences and paraphrased quotes to ensure I was not regurgitating information, as you suggested. The purpose of 'shuffling' the information was to ensure there were no blunt sentences, also as you requested. I do not understand how I have "over reliance" on quotes considering my current article only contains one direct quote. I felt the integration of quotes and paraphrased sentences was important to include a first hand account of the incident as I was not there to witness it myself. I believe that I have indeed provided a different perspective on the article by utilising several different sources to create my own perspective on the story. I too understand the issue of timeliness which is why I have been continuously editing to meet your feedback standards all day. I very much appreciate your feedback and would perhaps like some more clarification to ensure that the article can be published promptly as I do believe this is an important topic that needs to be reported on. Thank you again.

Sally. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smuow9 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 16 April 2013


 * I'm going to try to address this on Smuow9's user talk. --Pi zero (talk) 02:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Apologies
It really is all my fault, not Brian's. I was the one who didn't get to the review all day. Then when I did review it, I had the option of restoring the removed source, I'd decided I could restore it within reviewer's purview, but I was a bit uncomfortable with the complexities of the situation and I honestly didn't think there would be a problem with a not-ready and update. I'd planned to stay up to re-review, if you were able-and-willing to update within an hour or two (or perhaps even three). Sorry. --Pi zero (talk) 02:45, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

FYI: Moved User:LauraHale/Wikinews_Review_Analysis to meta:Research:Wikinews_Review_Analysis
I blanked your user-space version with a soft redirect so that people will be directed to the version on Meta. Now to talk to DarTar/Tilman about getting it into the Research Newsletter. :) --EpochFail (talk) 21:08, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikinews at the Rugby: Sunshine Coast Stadium April 27, 2013
I've added the source of the other scores to the talk page of this article &mdash; Talk:Wikinews at the Rugby: Sunshine Coast Stadium April 27, 2013 --RockerballAustralia c 05:35, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

WMF project invitation
Wow, so very cool! Thank you for the pointer. I had no idea there was such an opportunity and I will check it out.

re: "Hi. I noticed that you have uploaded a number of photographs today around an event that could possibly be considered newsworthy. It would be fantastic to see these pictures used on a WMF project.

I would like to extend an invitation to you to visit English Wikinews and include these articles in a photo essay. Examples of published photo essays you can use as a model can be found in the photo essays category."

Pura vida, Pia

Your assistance please
Thank you for your friendly invite.

I am not familiar with wikisource's photo-essays. Could you explain how they work, or point me at a document that explains them?

Many of the articles I tried drafting remained stalled, waiting for approval, due to what seemed like frivolous tags, until they were "stale".

I am reluctant to try contributing to wikinews again. I tried contributing here some years ago. I am afraid I experienced unforgivable bullying from one of the administrators, and I washed my hands of this site.

There was a discussion at the water cooler, where a former contributor who had been banned, returned as an IP and expressed some opinions, including one I agreed with -- that this project wasn't welcoming to newcomers. I don't know what got that IP banned, and when I followed up with my own comment I had no idea they had been banned. It was my experience that the project was not welcoming to newcomers, due to opacity and a general unwillingness to explain things to good faith newcomers.

I ended up getting threatened by a permanent ban myself -- although I think I have been completely civil and collegial at all times. If civilly and collegially voicing concerns is all it takes to get permanently banned here, then the former contributor may have committed no worse sin.

I see you are also an administrator. If I start this photo-essay can I ask you to help make sure grumpy "infallibale" administrators don't unfairly bully me? Geo Swan (talk) 11:44, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, Geo Swan and LauraHale. I looked into the history of the incident in question.  It took place very early in the formation of our current review infrastructure.  I'm not sure whether there's a punchline to all this, but I found the history interesting, so thought I'd share.
 * Geo Swan, who I gather had written one or more articles that were ultimately published, wrote an article in mid-February 2009, Former Guantanamo captive turns himself in (sorry, that link won't work for non-admins).
 * A reviewer (in effect, anyway), DragonFire1024, tagged the article for cleanup. The explanation on the cleanup tag was much less specific than the sort of thing we would write for the same problem today; this case was actually part of the community learning process for the difficult challenge of composing maximally helpful review comments.  The cleanup tag did link to the style guide as a whole, but today we'd likely use redirects WN:lede, WN:inverted pyramid, WN:basic questions &mdash; something much like the text at the sixth pillar at WN:Pillars of Wikinews writing.
 * Geo Swan asked for clarification, and DragonFire1024 didn't do well at providing such; this may be an instance of a phenomenon I've experienced from both sides, that if you know something well enough it becomes difficult to explain to someone who doesn't. Then Brain McNeil tried to help, identifying as possible culprit a use of the word "editor" in the standard text of the cleanup tag.  There followed one of those murky, unpleasant processes by which a social interaction goes completely sideways without (as far as one can tell) any individual involved actually wanting it to.  Geo Swan accused someone (maybe Brian McNeil) of bullying, Brian McNeil seems (I'm guessing) to have perceived Geo Swan to be making a big disruption over a small misunderstanding.  A real mess.
 * There seems to be an epilog to this. Another user got irate a few months later; it sounds as if their article(s?) had an NPOV problem.  I haven't gone into the history of that incident as deeply; sometimes people who have difficulty with our NPOV policy are misunderstanding how it differs from Wikipedia's NPOV, while other times they're just not seeing the bias in what they're doing.  That user seems to have more-or-less demonstrated Godwin's Law, and the resulting dust-up at the water cooler, with Geo Swan making a cameo, was actually the first community discussion on Wikinews that I made a contribution to.  To me, at least, it seems as if that discussion, as it evolved thereafter, was a significant milestone in the community's long journey to where it is now regarding writer/reviewer interactions.  In retrospect, I can see the influence of that milestone on the first pillar at WN:Pillars of Wikinews writing.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 14:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Potential interviewee
You suggested I could refer people to you - the one I remember from very recently (whose case first motivated me to suggest 'VIBS' and then mention the topic at your Water Cooler) was John Clark (actor), who had an account w:User:JohnClarknew on Wikipedia. He had been doing some editing on Wikipedia about topics he knew, got into some kind of disagreements (to be honest I had a hard time following them), had a long discussion at Jimbo Wales' talk page and eventually got indef-banned over a sort-of-maybe legal threat he allegedly made during one of the exchanges. I felt like Wikipedia let him down, and could have done a better job finding a way to convert his recollections into citable sources and then covered them in relevant articles. I don't know if he's still following his talk page much, but he linked in it to a blog he keeps at  Now show business isn't my thing, so I have no idea if I'm pointing you to a gold mine or a land mine, but I hope it ends up being a good opportunity for you. Wnt (talk) 04:53, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

re Kitties on fire
Thanks, added some blocks. -- Cirt (talk) 06:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)