Wikinews:Dispute resolution/Violence, bullying and expletives

Violence, bullying and expletives

 * One administrator, User:Blood Red Sandman, and another user, User:Microchip08 against me, User:Soy Rebelde
 * The conversation took place here: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Integrate_WN_into_WP_Infobox
 * I believe User:Blood Red Sandman initially started out by sabotaging a proposal I added to the water cooler section of WikiNews, however it evolved into a very clear and hostile personal attack.
 * They both verbally attacked me, however the latter user left his message in hidden text within the body of the edit window. The administrator, User:Blood Red Sandman, wrote the following:... ("fucking... fucking") or a selection ("Fucking... Cunt....").
 * I am extremely offended by this user and believe he should be stripped of his position and authority as administrator; his years contributing and number of connections should bear no weight. The other user should be blocked for a good number of days. --Soy Rebelde (talk) 02:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh sigh. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 02:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok. I've read over the convo and what else I've seen.  BRS said "fucking" originally in a non-derogatory manner, it wasn't even directed at Soy (as in "fucking idiot"), it was "fucking lead of the article!".  Soy asked BRS to tone it down and "Take a pill, lock up the weapons and unless you have something valuable, shut it.".  I'm not even sure what the duece that means.
 * Here's what I'm going to say, and I will post a response on the users talk pages. I know BRS has got personal issues, but that isn't a get out of jail free card.  BRS - chill out and stop antagonizing people.  Do it again and you'll end up with a civility block.  Soy, relax.  One outburst does not mean he should be "stripped of his position and authority as administrator".  I'm sorry, but years of contributions do weight in.  We all have bad days.  As for Mico, I don't know what he's up to, but he can get uninvolved right quick. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 02:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Just a random comment from someone uninvolved. I'm mainly with Shaka here. I believe we should avoid excessive swearing in discussion when possible. Yes, an expletive is just another word, and yes, some people don't think they are offensive, but I've noticed that, wherever people start swearing, the overall quality and logic of the discussion goes down the toilet, and that's never good. I think we can do better than that.
 * In this instance, both sides should relax. BRS - I appreciate you're having difficulties IRL, but that comment didn't contribute to the conversation and made things take an ad hominem turn. Soy Rebelde - I'm sorry if you were offended, but I don't think one single incident like that should cost BRS his admin rights. I think he's a good admin overall, please understand that some people have problems IRL that cause them to appear somewhat cranky here. As long as such behaviour is not the norm, i don't think a desysoping is warranted. Just my two pence. Tempodivalse [talk]  03:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Just to keep things simple and prevent fighting, I'm closing this. I've left notes for all involved parties, and frankly, this shouldn't have hit this page. A few steps were skipped. Oh well, no harm. It came up, it has been dealt with. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 03:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)