Wikinews:IRC workshop/May 22, 2011

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[ &#91;20:51&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; This is shaping up to be an awesome turnout

[ &#91;20:54&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; This is what it looked like building up to the hatefest four weeks ago.

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[ &#91;20:55&#93;] * MC8 nominates pizero as chairperson

[ &#91;21:00&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Good grief, I don't have the confidence to do stuff like that.

[ &#91;21:01&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Here's an extra topic for discussion, though: Is every other week too often for these things?

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[ &#91;21:10&#93;] MC8 changed topic of #wikinews-workshop to: Welcome to the Wikinews workshop! | Agenda and logs: http://enwn.net/492B0 | Publicly logged | Next meeting NOW!

[ &#91;21:10&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; Is anything happening in here?

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; No.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; Shame.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Lack of turnout suggests lack of a genuine need.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; I'll linger anyway, since I have nothing better to do.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; One would hate to miss it if something *did* happen. :-)

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[ &#91;21:12&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Don't know that anyone is logging.

[ &#91;21:13&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Picochip08 is (properly, this time)

[ &#91;21:13&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; ...

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Eek.

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; I don't remember programming that

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Short term memory is the first to go.

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;Wackywace&gt; Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun.

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Anyone have any thoughts on "How should we welcome the University of Wollongong's journalism students?"?

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt;

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] * MC8 has no ideas whatsoever

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; Are they still doing it?

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; But they're about to drop off the queue, I tagged a few as abandoned today

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; I thought they would have finished by now.

[ &#91;21:16&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Some of them are awful, I don't think they've read the SG

[ &#91;21:16&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; (hm, chatham house rules might be worth it next time)

[ &#91;21:17&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; I've really lost track of who the UoW students are.

[ &#91;21:18&#93;] &lt;Wackywace&gt; Not sure, but this looks like one given it's about AUS: Journalist's arrest sparks alarm over the legality of social networking activity

[ &#91;21:18&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Journalist%27s_arrest_sparks_alarm_over_the_legality_of_social_networking_activity

[ &#91;21:18&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; pizero: there's a list on AAA iirc

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[ &#91;21:20&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Yeah, mayb. There'd been some possibles (and definitely's) accumulating on the water cooler, at least some of which did get copied to AAA. Not sure they all did.

[ &#91;21:20&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; *maybe

[ &#91;21:21&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; There's not been a definitive list

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Brianmc had started to put together a careful analysis of edits-by-phase to each of their articles, but I'm pretty sure that didn't get maintained.

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; There's a category somewhere, isn't there?

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; yeah, UoW 2011

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:UoW_2011

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; (has a link, I know that's a template :P)

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;Wackywace&gt; Someone's just made this; a news article from 2009. Has no develop tag? Barack Obama speech in Prague, 2009

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_speech_in_Prague%2C_2009

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Huh. There's a.

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:UoW_student

[ &#91;21:25&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Wackywace: nice article though

[ &#91;21:25&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; it might have just been c&p'd off archives, perhaps?

[ &#91;21:26&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; I say "nice", I mean "nicely formatted". It's a presser

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[ &#91;21:30&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; If we don't want to give up on these workshops altogether (don't know, myself), perhaps it would make sense to make them monthly.

[ &#91;21:30&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Well, this one is de-facto "not running", isn't it?

[ &#91;21:34&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; I was saying after the one four weeks ago, that the function of such a workshop could be performed at least as well by occasional threads on the (miscellaneous?) water cooler.

[ &#91;21:34&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Maybe better. It wouldn't be hard to do better than this.

[ &#91;21:35&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Why do we have a gazillion water coolers, anyway?

[ &#91;21:35&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; (side note, I still think SD is broken)

[ &#91;21:36&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; heh.

[ &#91;21:36&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; We only have five, don't we?

[ &#91;21:37&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; It helps keep things from getting tangled. I do have doubts about mirroring it all on WN:Water cooler.

[ &#91;21:37&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:Water_cooler

[ &#91;21:38&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; It's not really on that page, so mirroring it there seems rather muddling. It does make a semi-convenient way of figuring out which cooler a thread is on.

[ &#91;21:40&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Projects that have a single page for all discussions are kind of a mess.

[ &#91;21:42&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; If nothing has happened by the end of the hour, can we pack up and go home?

[ &#91;21:43&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; I expect so

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[ &#91;22:00&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Well, I suppose a no-show like this qualifies as "mostly harmless".

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[ &#91;22:02&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; pizero: the most productive so far? :P [ &#91;19:39&#93;] -!- Picochip08 [Picochip08!~Picochip0@wikimedia/Microchip08/bot/Picochip08] has joined #wikinews-workshop

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[ &#91;20:51&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; This is shaping up to be an awesome turnout

[ &#91;20:54&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; This is what it looked like building up to the hatefest four weeks ago.

[ &#91;20:54&#93;] * MC8 debates blinking the site notice

[ &#91;20:55&#93;] * MC8 nominates pizero as chairperson

[ &#91;21:00&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Good grief, I don't have the confidence to do stuff like that.

[ &#91;21:01&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Here's an extra topic for discussion, though: Is every other week too often for these things?

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[ &#91;21:10&#93;] MC8 changed topic of #wikinews-workshop to: Welcome to the Wikinews workshop! | Agenda and logs: http://enwn.net/492B0 | Publicly logged | Next meeting NOW!

[ &#91;21:10&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; Is anything happening in here?

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; No.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; Shame.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Lack of turnout suggests lack of a genuine need.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; I'll linger anyway, since I have nothing better to do.

[ &#91;21:11&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; One would hate to miss it if something *did* happen. :-)

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[ &#91;21:12&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Don't know that anyone is logging.

[ &#91;21:13&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Picochip08 is (properly, this time)

[ &#91;21:13&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; ...

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Eek.

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; I don't remember programming that

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Short term memory is the first to go.

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;Wackywace&gt; Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun.

[ &#91;21:14&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Anyone have any thoughts on "How should we welcome the University of Wollongong's journalism students?"?

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt;

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] * MC8 has no ideas whatsoever

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; Are they still doing it?

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; But they're about to drop off the queue, I tagged a few as abandoned today

[ &#91;21:15&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; I thought they would have finished by now.

[ &#91;21:16&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Some of them are awful, I don't think they've read the SG

[ &#91;21:16&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; (hm, chatham house rules might be worth it next time)

[ &#91;21:17&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; I've really lost track of who the UoW students are.

[ &#91;21:18&#93;] &lt;Wackywace&gt; Not sure, but this looks like one given it's about AUS: Journalist's arrest sparks alarm over the legality of social networking activity

[ &#91;21:18&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Journalist%27s_arrest_sparks_alarm_over_the_legality_of_social_networking_activity

[ &#91;21:18&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; pizero: there's a list on AAA iirc

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[ &#91;21:20&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Yeah, mayb. There'd been some possibles (and definitely's) accumulating on the water cooler, at least some of which did get copied to AAA. Not sure they all did.

[ &#91;21:20&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; *maybe

[ &#91;21:21&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; There's not been a definitive list

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Brianmc had started to put together a careful analysis of edits-by-phase to each of their articles, but I'm pretty sure that didn't get maintained.

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;dendodge&gt; There's a category somewhere, isn't there?

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; yeah, UoW 2011

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:UoW_2011

[ &#91;21:22&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; (has a link, I know that's a template :P)

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;Wackywace&gt; Someone's just made this; a news article from 2009. Has no develop tag? Barack Obama speech in Prague, 2009

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_speech_in_Prague%2C_2009

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Huh. There's a.

[ &#91;21:23&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:UoW_student

[ &#91;21:25&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Wackywace: nice article though

[ &#91;21:25&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; it might have just been c&p'd off archives, perhaps?

[ &#91;21:26&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; I say "nice", I mean "nicely formatted". It's a presser

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[ &#91;21:30&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; If we don't want to give up on these workshops altogether (don't know, myself), perhaps it would make sense to make them monthly.

[ &#91;21:30&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Well, this one is de-facto "not running", isn't it?

[ &#91;21:34&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; I was saying after the one four weeks ago, that the function of such a workshop could be performed at least as well by occasional threads on the (miscellaneous?) water cooler.

[ &#91;21:34&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Maybe better. It wouldn't be hard to do better than this.

[ &#91;21:35&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; Why do we have a gazillion water coolers, anyway?

[ &#91;21:35&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; (side note, I still think SD is broken)

[ &#91;21:36&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; heh.

[ &#91;21:36&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; We only have five, don't we?

[ &#91;21:37&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; It helps keep things from getting tangled. I do have doubts about mirroring it all on WN:Water cooler.

[ &#91;21:37&#93;] &lt;Wikilink2_&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:Water_cooler

[ &#91;21:38&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; It's not really on that page, so mirroring it there seems rather muddling. It does make a semi-convenient way of figuring out which cooler a thread is on.

[ &#91;21:40&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Projects that have a single page for all discussions are kind of a mess.

[ &#91;21:42&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; If nothing has happened by the end of the hour, can we pack up and go home?

[ &#91;21:43&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; I expect so

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[ &#91;22:00&#93;] &lt;pizero&gt; Well, I suppose a no-show like this qualifies as "mostly harmless".

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[ &#91;22:02&#93;] &lt;MC8&gt; pizero: the most productive so far? :P