Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Adambro 3

Adambro
I would like to ask that the community considers reinstating my admin rights. I don't think I need to say too much as I'm sure most will be aware of the circumstances in which I resigned the rights but I'd also hope that the positive contribution that I feel I've made during my time here at Wikinews is also recognised. I have a strong desire to continue contributing my time to improve the project and see having rights as helpful in doing so. My position on image licensing issues is primarily what has caused controversy and for this I apologise, not for my opinion that we should strive to minimise the use of unfree content, but how the way I've gone about trying to promote this which has caused upset within the community. I've obviously had a reasonable amount of time now since giving up admin rights to look back out how I've handled some of these controversial issues and have learned a lot from this. Whilst I would not consider to have ever misused my admin rights, I can admit to have had instances of poor judgment and would endeavor to think more carefully about admin actions in future. I would be happy to answer any questions anyone may have but don't expect me to attempt to defend all of my actions, I will try to explain why I took a particular course of action but where I've clearly made mistakes I'll admit to doing so. Adambro (talk) 10:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

 * Can you promise to consult the community over questionable images rather than just use the tools to zap them? I'm sure you will, since you've seen the battles over these, this is more a formality than anything. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed I can, I've seen what happens when I make unilateral controversial decisions about images and don't wish for this to happen again. Adambro (talk) 11:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You've been without adminship for a while. Well that helps you reflect on life (some say even the universe, and with the physics nut around - everything), its important to not loose site of the tenants of adminship, what separates us admins from lowly users. I'm going to ask you a quick question to make sure you are still familiar with the inner workings of the administrative cabal:
 * Adambro: What is the meaning of life, the universe, and everything? Bawolff ☺☻ 17:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Deep Thought said [[Image:Answer to Life.png|30px]] but didn't cite any sources and that information is nearly 29 years old and so this probably doesn't qualify as news. Adambro (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * - It has been over 9 days since this RfA discussion started. Is there a 'crat ready to close it yet? Seems that the consensus at this point in time is pretty straightforward. Cirt (talk) 21:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * at least two of our Bureaucrats are attending Wikimania presently, I suppose that accounts for the delay. --SVTCobra 23:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Votes
color="#FF7133">Maxim ]](talk) ''' 12:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * per the above conversation. Adambro has shown himself to be otherwise trustworthy and I believe him when he says he's learnt his lesson. I don't believe we will see a repeat of the problems that led to him giving up the rights and therefore have no issues with them being returned to him. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The one issue Adambro and I clash on is the EDP, in all other aspects of the running of the site we're pretty much in agreement. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Based on the extreme negative stance Adambro has taken towards the embargoed wiki proposal I withdraw my support. I have yet to see any constructive input on something which has previously been voted on and given significant support. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a shame that you consider my opinion on the current proposal to make me unfit to be an administrator. I haven't taken a negative view of the proposal simply for the sake of it. I initially supported the proposal but having taken more time to consider it I decided I could no longer support it. I cannot in anyway rule out my opinion on the proposal changing as the proposal itself develops. When I initially opposed this private Wiki back in January I didn't simply state that I opposed it, I took the time to outline my reasons for doing so and, by implication, suggested what changes to the proposal which would satisfy my concerns. I would strongly dispute your suggestion that my raising of concerns wasn't constructive and the fact that these appear to be shared by some other users would confirm that these are genuine issues and haven't simply been manufactured to enable me to take a negative position as has sometimes been suggested. The discussion of this back in January, regardless of the level of support, failed to see this implemented and so DragonFire1024 has attempted to progress this proposal and it is appropriate that these changes are discussed. It is important to recognise that as has been shown, a community consensus isn't enough to convince the developers to set this up and so it is imperative that we take the time to carefully analyse each and every point of this proposal so we can not only present a consensus to the developers, we can also present a solid argument accompanied by a carefully drafted proposal. DragonFire1024 has been listening carefully to the comments made and has been amending the proposal as appropriate and this is greatly respected but don't mistake my lack of agreement with the proposal to be a lack of respect for him or wider community. Adambro (talk) 10:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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 * Jacques Divol (talk) 14:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * --SVTCobra 14:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So i can stop being confused everytime you put something for speedy deletion :P Bawolff ☺☻ 16:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I still don't see why his rights were removed originally. Also, approving this RfA will mean that vandalism article creations and images that are moved to commons will be deleted much more quickly. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Adambro asked that his privileges be removed on May 15, 2008. He spoke with Cspurrier on IRC after which Adambro was desysoped. --SVTCobra 18:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * He asked, but only when under pressure to do so. Anonymous101 (talk) 18:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There was an open de-admin request, but he likely would have survived that. Adambro refused requests to change his mind about resigning and refused to stand for a new nomination. So, respectfully, I must say I believe your assessment is wrong. --SVTCobra 18:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It wasn't going very well, he may not have survived that request. Mike Halterman (talk) 19:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If anyone cares, that vote was 5-4 in favor of de-admin at the time it was halted. --SVTCobra 22:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I doubt Adambro would have asked for de-adminship if the de-adminship wasn't started although you are right that  Adambro refused requests to change his mind about resigning and refused to stand for a new nomination. Anonymous101 (talk) 18:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My take on the situation was this: My adminship had become too contentious, even if the request to remove my rights was unsuccessful, it was clear that several members of the community did not have confidence in my ability to fulfil my responsibilities as an administrator. I decided that it would be appropriate for me to resign these rights to allow me to step back from the situation at the time, consider my actions, and try to limit the disruption that the de-adminship request was causing. I requested that my admin rights be removed on Meta and confirmed this as valid by editing my page here and this was then done by Cspurrier. Brianmc then soon after nominated me to get admin rights back but I didn't feel in a position to accept the nomination at that time, needing more of a break from the responsibilities of adminship, so I declined. I now feel confident that I can serve the community to the level I consider is required. Adambro (talk) 18:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * , but the thing I feel is most important is that I actually want to see that change, not just hear about it. If I see anything which is reminiscient of your past behavior with the tools, I won't hesitate to put you up for another de-adminship vote. So please, discussion, listening, please practice both of those. Mike Halterman (talk) 19:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * . --Jcart1534 (talk) 23:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * , per . Cirt (talk) 20:50, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * per Mike Halterman. Let's see those changes. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 12:37, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ~Planoneck~ 14:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * - Welcome Back! -- Cometstyles 04:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)