Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Tempodivalse (admin re-confirmation 2)

'More then a week has gone by and guess what? We still love you Tempo!' --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 08:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm concerned that I'm not fully supported or trusted by the community any more. I've made a lot of unpopular decisions/suggestions recently (like the image warning thingy), and feel that I've done a lot of dumb things too. (For example: publishing an article with POV issues - or when I've been too involved, failing a story on POV when many other people disagreed with me.) I'd just like to see whether the community at large thinks I can still be trusted with the elevated privileges. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Questions and comments

 * What is your view of the distinction between support by the community and trust by the community? --Pi zero (talk) 16:50, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I see the two as being very similar. In my mind, "trust" is the feeling of the community that you will not abuse the advanced privs. "Support" is sort of the same thing, but it refers more to whether the community wants you to retain the extra rights. (does that makes sense?) Tempodivalse [talk]  16:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Makes sense to me. --Pi zero (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the support, guys. Kinda makes me feel like a fool for putting reconfirms up so frequently (last one was seven months ago). :-p I've had people tell me in RL that I lack enough self-confidence, so that's probably part of my problem here. Nonetheless, I'd prefer this goes the full seven days, constructive feedback is appreciated and I'd like to find areas where I can improve. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  17:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


 * We can all do really - and I mean really - stupid things. The best thing you can do is just get on with things and realise that we trust you to always do what you think is the right thing. If it isn't, the worse that will happen is someone will say so and we all move along. The community is small and tight; it isn't like a bigger wiki where everyone is a stranger. We - I'm sure I speak for everyone - like you and trust you. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the encouraging comment, Sandman. I agree, we're all human and eventally make mistakes, so best to move on - but I was concerned that I'm more prone to errors than average. Still, nothing on a wiki is irreversible, so I probably shouldn't be too worried :-) Tempodivalse [talk]  02:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Votes
There's a difference between screwing up - as we all do - and losing the support of the community. The image thing, as I commented, was a discussion we needed to have. As for the others - well, it's not that long since I was stopped on IRC before reviewing something I'd worked on too much. Don't be so hard on yourself. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 01:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relax...you'll always make mistakes. Stop doubting yourself. Benny the mascot (talk) 04:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I miss all the good drama :P. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If we no longer trust you we'll let you know. Just keep doing your thing and stop doubting yourself, as overall your work has been excellent. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 17:04, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * --Pi zero (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * - you have nothing to worry about. Everyone screws up occasionally, and everyone makes the odd unpopular decision, but that doesn't stop people from trusting them. I trust your judgement, and you losing your rights would be a major loss to the project as a whole. Den dodge  T\C 17:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a learning curve. Wikinews is part of the Fourth Estate. You need to look critically at the forms of censorship other press apply to appease some vocal minority, and their story selection to rabble-rouse. And, be critical of sources based on who their financial backers are. I'd make a distinction between the press as the Fourth Estate and the "mob"; good press inform the mob and give them an opportunity to examine the facts before being conned into voting for a fast-talking salesman. You didn't mention VoA explicitly, but I've said this before; they're a propaganda division of the United States government – technically only for distribution outside the United States. What they call a terrorist attack, or who they say is a terrorist, is official policy being expressed. Many public-service broadcasters and news services in other countries (like the BBC) are much less dependent on government whim. So, the Rupert Murdochs of this world lobby the government to cut their funding; not just to get more paying viewers, but to promote their own political agenda and get people to vote against their own interests. Glenn Beck is living proof of that and you should go out of your way to watch OutFoxed - Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikinews would fall apart without you as a sysop Cocoaguy talkcontribs‽ 18:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * because I don't see anything worth losing the bits over and where there have been minor hiccups you have taken criticism onboard. Heck we all screw up a bit occasionally. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 19:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Support -  Amgine | t 22:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * because any of the people who have signed above can tell you that I've made plenty of mistakes. ;-D --Thunderhead 11:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * . the wub "?!"  21:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Everyone above has pretty much summed up my thoughts but you have both my trust and support. Everyone makes mistakes and quite frankly, I don't think some of yours are even mistakes.  Keep up the excellent work Tempo!  (And you gave me my first(and only so far) barnstar which deserves a strong support really)!     Tris   23:02, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I have low self-confidence sometimes myself, but I don't let it get me down. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 04:05, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * -- Pmlineditor     ∞    15:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)