Wikinews talk:Credential verification

Phone number
What is “+1-310-356-6217”. Are you then accredited by a voicemail number? --Blaite 12:51, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This is the nmber to call to verify the credential's of a Wikinews user on this page. --Cspurrier 15:44, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

ID Numbers
Amgine, the ID numbers already appear on those member's Press Cards. They cannot be changed. NGerda 21:31, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

The ID numbers which should appear on Press Cards are as follows:


 * 1) Stafford, Brandon (Pingswept)
 * 2) Franklin, Alan J (Alan_J_Franklin - voluntary request to de-accredit)
 * 3) Gerda, Nicholas (NGerda)
 * 4) Spurrier, Craig (Cspurrier)
 * 5) Novak, Jake (MrMiscellanious)
 * 6) Koepke, Ross (RossKoepke)

ID numbers should not be re-used, to avoid possible identifying issues. - Amgine / talk 20:01, 18 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Revised, they are now...


 * 1) Stafford, Brandon (Pingswept)
 * 2) Franklin, Alan J (Alan_J_Franklin - voluntary request to de-accredit)
 * 3) Gerda, Nicholas (NGerda)
 * 4) Spurrier, Craig (Cspurrier)
 * 5) Novak, Jake (MrMiscellanious)
 * 6) Koepke, Ross (RossKoepke)
 * 7) Moreau, Nicholas (Zanimum)

Credential links
I think it would be handy to include links to the accreditation policy and those pending accreditation, just for reference. --Mrmiscellanious 16:46, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Great idea. -- NGerda 16:47, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Changes to listing
Could my email just be transfered from nicholasmoreau((@))gmail.com to just plain nicholasmoreau@gmail.com. My spam filter's good, so it doesn't really matter if any more bots pick it up. Also, please add in that this is also my Google Talk account. Thx! -- user:zanimum
 * Done. --Chiacomo (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

can an admin update http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:CV#Stock.2C_Terin_.28Wikinews_user_Terinjokes.29 with the stuff from http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Terinjokes/ID_card

Thanks! terinjokes User Page / Talk 23:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Page protection
Could someone please change the Location listing for Brown, Ed so that it correctly reads: Prince George, Virginia, USA.

Also, if there is such a thing as a Press Pass, where does an accredited reporter find it? -Edbrown05 07:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You find it on your user page or an admin emails it to you. (I think). — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  14:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * User:Messedrocker has a blank template, I've sent him a recent ID photo of myself and he sent me a beautiful press card... so you should be bothering him [[Image:Smiley.png|15px]].--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Accreditation
Is it possible to become accredited without having to make one's full name available on the Internet? Dev920 17:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes...but it is not a good idea. You get a press badge if you get voted in as accredited and it MUST have your full name printed on it as far as I know. It is possible, but I personally would not agree to an annymous user with credentials. DragonFire1024 17:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * As far as I'm concerned, accreditation cannot be given without revealing some details about your identity. That includes full name.  You should end up with a press pass that has the same name on it as your driver's license.  An accredited reporter using a false name would, in my opinion, be worse than what EssJay did. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * In some states it will also be considered fraud and that's a felony here. DragonFire1024 19:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That may be the case in many other places too, but what should matter more than sticking to the law is getting the respect of your peers on the wiki. Being fairly honest about who you are is part of that.  No? --Brian McNeil / talk 19:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking like the Arbitration Committee on Wikipedia, you can give your real name and details to whoever offline, but your name stays off the Internet. And I thought on WIkimedia you were judged by what you do, not who you are? Dev920 08:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * What you are is what you do. Either you stand by it, or you want to be some pseudonym that is accountable to what? Who is Dev920? HEY NOOOO BODY, how's that feel? Are you somebody? -Edbrown05 09:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Dev920 is a nobody. -Edbrown05 09:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Accreditation, unlike arbitration, is primarily used off-wiki - in the real world where screen-names are not common, to say the least. also, accredited reporters have to bear a certain responsibility for what they reports, and insisting on real names is one way of bringing that responsibiity home to those who seek accreditation. note that it is possible to do original reporting even without accreditation. and u can always take the help of an accredited member when you need it. –Doldrums(talk) 10:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Doldrums' remark is the most helpful on this (EdBrown05 takes some getting used to, but he doesn't mean to be nasty - he's just making a point a little cruelly). The point is that Accreditation is indeed for use in the real world.  We don't have a requirement for real names for our Arbitration committee, the activity of that takes place entirely online and the candidates have been elected based on their online contributions.  However, accreditation is - as stated - for use in the real world.  It needs your real name as you can't turn up for an event and expect admission as Dev920.  I'd go as far as saying that accredited reporters should all have an email address that identifies their real name posted on their talk page.  I can be contacted on a variety of email addresses, and I don't have any which use a pseudonym associated with here. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This is somewhat irrelevant anyway, as everything I have seen on Wikinews so far had already turned me right off. You treat everyone who comes over from other projects with extreme hostility, are arrogant and aloof about Wikinews, despite the fact that no-one, including most Wikimedia projects, pays attention to you, and tolerate incivility in your administrators (Ed would have been reprimanded on Wikipedia for his nastiness, not have it dismissed as "Oh, that Ed, what is he like?" That, more than anything, tells me what Wikinews is like). Your project will fail miserably until you get your act together and start being civil to people who join you. I wasn't planning on doing much here, anyway, but your attitude towards people like DavidShankbone only hurts your cause and makes you look stupid in the eyes of the people who do bother to visit here. 82.34.242.138 21:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * When members from other projects come over, we treat them as nicely as we can, although we already have a lot of accredited reporters. Wikinewsies requesting accredidation will need to write a story about that, and we don't want to have to delete it for not following policy. For example, if Wikinews would give accredidation to John13 from Wikipedia, who feels that no original research should be included on Wikinews, it might be pointless to give him accredidation, since accredidation is original research.  Thunderhead  ►  21:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think wikimedians fully appreciate that wikinewsies work toward the goal of original news gathering. Acadamia stuff, which forms most of wikimedia content, is not what news is about. The challenge is to guard against hoax reports, and yet remain receptive. If that makes wikinews rude, then pardon yourself when your introduction to a news source is prefaced with, "I'm 82.34.242.138." -76.104.104.187 07:16, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * "You treat everyone who comes over from other projects with extreme hostility" ? I was welcomed nicely and decided to stay, eventually spending most of my time here, instead of Wikipedia, which I find less friendly.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm with Stevenfruitsmaak on this one, we are welcoming when you come in by the front door and say "Hey! I wanna write news". In those circumstances the red carpet will be laid out for you and people will do their best to help see your contributions published.  If you say "Hey! I want credentials, but can't adequately say how I'll contribute to your wiki"  then you should expect a response like Ed's.  --Brian McNeil / talk 20:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Totally agree with "Steven" and Brianmc. I came here as an imigrant from Wikipedia and I decided to stay here because everyone was very nice. I don't even make contributations on Wikipedia anymore as they are less friendly. 82.34.242.138, who probably is DavidShankbone, you don't feel welcome here because you exept the credentials right away. Editors that are humble and try their best to edit here will reciveve the credentials a lot faster. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  14:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Inactive accredited reporters
First and foremost, can someone help clean up the list of active/inactive accredited reporters? If any of the people who are accredited and inactive have the AR template on their user or talk page I also think that should be removed.

Moving on from that to emails, as anyone who has emailed scoop recently will have discovered there are several people who aren't checking their Wikinewsie emails. For the last couple of emails I've sent to the list I got bounces from the following addresses:
 * frankie.roberto
 * kat.walsh
 * sean.heron
 * robert.lehrer

All these are @wikinewsie.org

How do people feel this should be dealt with? And, perhaps more importantly, how should we deal with those who are long-term inactive? Should we perhaps amend the accreditation policy to automatically de-accredit after a prolonged period of inactivity? --Brian McNeil / talk 10:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with de-accreditation. this is one place where inactivity leading to automatic loss of rights makes sense imho. However there's also some other issues. For example some of these people are active elsewhere in Wikimedia. For some of them, that was a given at accreditation time (GMaxwell was always a commoner first, some were from other languages). However some people were active at Wikinews then moved to other projects (like MessedRocker or Mindspillage). I'm uncertain how we should handle those. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't recall moving on to another project. You're welcome to rescind my credentials at any time, by the way. Also keep in mind my independent reconfirmation program in which I e-mailed each credentialed newsie and asked them if they still wanted their credentials. Those who say yes can be recalled by the community at any time, and those who say no (and those who don't respond by August 5, as the e-mail stipulates) will just have their credentials removed. MessedRocker (talk) 21:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just haven't seen you around lately (and the whole resignation message thing...). Anyways, good to see you around. I think your reconfirm program is the way to go by the way. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Category addition
editprotected "Category:Accreditation|Credential verification" should be added. Van der Hoorn (talk) 17:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SVTCobra 21:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Ooops!
Methinks I've given out some wikinewsie email addresses and not listed people here. :S --Brian McNeil / talk 23:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Although I received accreditation after you have posted your message, I think I'm one of them. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 17:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you add me please?
editprotected Can you add me please-name: Tristan Thomas, contact info: wikinewsie email address, areas of coverage: all really. Cheers!   Tris   13:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * This was already done by Brian McNeil. --SVTCobra 22:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Email/contact details change
editprotected Could someone change my email address in the Contact Details bit to patrick.gillett@firstxvnews.com.au --RockerballAustralia (talk) 06:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅--Brian McNeil / talk 08:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Wettach, Wolfgang G. (Wikinews user Gwyndon)
Location: Tuebingen, Germany Areas of interest: EU, politics, literature, religion (see user page) Contact information: AIM: Gwyndon, Skype: PeliCorn, Phone Voicebox: (US) 1-267-316-7537, (DE) 03212-9388224,. More information: Wikinews user page | Contact reporter via Talk Page | Browse recent activity | Email this user Accredited User No.: 3900
 * Received accreditation: 07:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.

Is there any particular reason I'm not on this list?
I'm sure I'm accredited, aren't I? Because I'm definitely not on this page... Den dodge  T\C 00:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Please add
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--Diego Grez let's talk 15:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Pmlineditor discuss 08:04, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * editprotected Oh. Could O'Higgins Region be replaced with Pichilemu? :p --Diego Grez let's talk 03:39, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

✅ -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

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--William S. Saturn (talk) 00:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ both. Diego Grez return fire 01:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Help
I apologize for my bad English and if this request for help does not correspond to this section: In Spanish we are writing Wikinews Reporters policy Borrowers, however, we need help at some points such as: "Having a local chapter of the Foundation Wikimedia in the country where the user will be credited" and "Not having blocks in force in any of the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation, under the user name or any puppet named." Given that this version of Wikinews is already in use, effective and remarkable success this feature request a little help in the Spanish version. Using common sense can not yet vote on policy to the community because we have these outstanding issues, so he appreciates the help and if anyone wants to can go to the talk page of "politics" in the Spanish version. Thanks in advance :) leave the link Wikinoticias Discusión:Acreditación de reporteros --MadriCR (talk) 03:09, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Um, honestly MadriCR, those rules are moronic. I lol'd at the [sock]puppets one, I'm not ever going to ask for accreditation there, I don't see the point, since I have been the only "sockpuppeeter" who has ever touched the Wikinoticias' interface and has done anything productive on it. Anyway, I posted like two months ago a suggestion there but nobody ever responded, so... Diego Grez return fire 15:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request
editprotected Hi, could someone remove the wikinewsie.org email from my contact details as I no longer use it. the wub "?!"  18:09, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes_check.svg|link=|alt=|16px]] Done --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Rklawton
I'd prefer to be on the active list. I'm a photographer and available in the St. Louis area to help illustrate stories. The problem is: I've received no requests from Wikinewsies. Also - it would help considerably if we had some sort of documentation we could carry with us like normal journalists. It's hard to get areas closed off to all but media (though I've had occasional success) when everyone else has ID and I don't. Disaster areas, for example, are closed due to fears of looting - but they aren't closed to photojournalists who authorities often view has helping get the word out. Anyone with thoughts or suggestions please share them or at least point me in the right direction. Rklawton (talk) 04:08, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅. — μchip08 10:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Credible ID costs. However, I've had reasonable success with a batch of business cards I had printed up. As to getting collab. requests,... Are there any other reporters in your area? --Brian McNeil / talk 07:57, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Full mailboxes
The following people have full wikinewsie.org mailboxes and are generating bounce messages.


 * Peter Coombe
 * Soleil Cotterell
 * Peter Coti
 * Jonathan-Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov

I know Jon is supposed to be taken off scoop. I'll remove the rest in two weeks if not resolved by contacting me for a password reset, or cleaning out their mailboxes and confirming that's done. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:41, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Cleared out my mailbox. the wub "?!"  02:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Borked
Page is hopelessly broken; edit links take you to a totally different page in another namespace. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:27, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I see why it's happening. I think the cleanest fix is to split the current cred template into two stages, an outer stage meant to be subst'd and an inner stage that hides most of the messy markup.  Akin to the two-stage arrangement of aband and abandoned.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:34, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup - Driven by email accounts
Per remark on Tom Morris' page, I've locked all @wikinewsie.org accounts that looked to be using an aggregator; apologies to anyone who was actually 'behaving' and using a local mail client.

Other changes:
 * Not set quotas against names I recognise as clearly active
 * Locked, and set near-full quota levels on people I recognise as no longer working on-project
 * Set quotas with some headroom against names I vaguely recognise

Anyone caught out, in-error please let me know. Anyone who has been using their account for personal purposes and is not contributing anymore, please let me know how long it will take you to pull mail, set an out-of-office and use another address? --Brian McNeil / talk 11:56, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Add Dennis Bratland
Can I have my name added to the list, per Accreditation requests/Dennis Bratland? I'm working on a couple press tours to get photography access and it might help if they could check my name on the list here. Thanks! --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:31, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Acagastya
What would be the field values for adding you to this page? The last one added was, for instance,

I don't remember what we were using for reporter_id, which is why Dennis Bratland's hasn't been filled in. --Pi zero (talk) 14:05, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I think reporter id is same as the user id (link). Regarding email, can I please hace "acagastya@wikinewsie.org"? •–• 14:33, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll put that in. Now that you say it, I think you're right that we use the user id.  The complication, iirc, is that we assign the reporter id at the time of accreditation and it doesn't change thereafter, but the user id changed for existing user accounts as a result of the big integration that was done several years ago where everyone now has a single account for all the sisters whereas they used to have a separate account for each project.  So the older reporter ids are different from the current user id &mdash;they're fossilized from when en.wn had its own separate account ids&mdash; which once upon a time confused me for a while.  --Pi zero (talk) 14:57, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Need to add it again, I guess. •–• 18:29, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Tried a format; let me know if you want the name handled differently. --Pi zero (talk) 18:21, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

email should be "agastya.chandrakant@wikinewsie.org" and would you mind keeping my first name only? •–• 19:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. --Pi zero (talk) 19:50, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Acagastya
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Noticed updated his details on his user page (email, Asia) etc., but not here. Would be good. JJLiu112 (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ partially. I had been hoping @Acagastya would have addressed this themselves. I had been resisting because I am not sure if all of Asia is an appropriate location (literally 30% of the Earth's landmass) and I did not think '+' was a valid character in an email address. Turns out '+' is a valid character. For now I updated the email and removed the state from the location. Cheers, SVTCobra 14:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * location had been set to Asia because of spam/threat/BS I used to receive. If your email is foo@bar.com, and if someone tries sending email to foo+anything@bar.com, you still receive it, + and the rest of the characters are ignored.  The reason to have it was to see who is sending emails from legitimate point of contact, and who is spamming (+s is for spam).  In my experience, all the +s ones, which one finds from my userpage, are usually spam.  It was my way of knowing how one is using the info on my userpage. 121.243.89.74 (talk) 06:28, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * While I believe you are Acagastya, I think it best is you logged in. I included the '+' when I updated. I do not have a problem setting you location to Asia or even unknown as long as I know it is really you. Also, the community needs help it getting people access to scoop. We are trying to approve a new reviewer and and an old one doesn't get included yet. Sorry to be so business-like but Wikinews is struggling. I hope you are well and your absence has been due to success in real life. Cheers, SVTCobra 06:42, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * To illustrate just how bad, it was, this was our Main Page from October 16 to November 20 - no articles published. Heavy Water (talk) 14:35, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

JJLiu112
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Name: Madeleine Liu. JJLiu112 (talk) 07:23, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ You probably know the global rename policy if you want to change your username. Not sure how to change your wn-reporters email (or set up a new account) if you want any of these things to reflect the name change. SVTCobra 14:21, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Just FYI, Liu, Madeleine (for style!) JJLiu112 (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Inactives
editprotected Please move Cspurrier, WSS, LivelyRatification, Tom Morris, Zanimum, TUFKAAP, BRS, and SGN to the "inactive" list per the "no article edits for longer than 6 months" policy at the top of the page. Heavy Water (talk) 18:29, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, Acagastya got accreditation in 2017, not 2016. Heavy Water (talk) 18:44, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ —chaetodipus (talk &middot; contribs) 05:40, 11 August 2023 (UTC)